you went bankrupt in the name of freedom. and so the anti-obama care cause will endure. the hope to kill health insurance lives on. the dream of scuttling obama care will never die. even it f it means convincing t uninsured to remain uninsured. joining us now, my friend, jonathan cohen, senior editor at the new republic. good to see you tonight. thanks for having me on the snow. let s say they get the folks to burn the draft card and not take the insurance and they re uninsured. what does freedom works say to a 24-year-old who in 2014 gets into an accident and can t pay their bills? what we re seeing here is really something i think is timp different than what we ve seen before. this isn t just fighting a law, isn t just saying we want the law off the books. this is telling people who stand to benefit from the law, hey,
succeed and he of course played in to that with his own mistakes. but there really was an enemy group out there who just wanted to take him down. i don t think there s any doubt about that. it s hard to understand where that came from. there was this feeling, the illegitimacy, republicans felt that, some republicans felt that clinton didn t deserve to be president. it had to do with his sort of embodiment of the 60s morality, the 60s, everything that they thought was wrong with the 1960s. which wasn t really fair. clinton was never a, you know, draft card-burning, although there was a draft scandal, as mark well knows. but he wasn t a hippie, dippy kind of 60s figure. but that s the way they saw him. and there was something about the way he would talk his way out of jams, that they just could never trap him and corner him and he would always sort of escape them and it drove them crazy. they really detested the man and
if there is a question lead us out. give us a solution. if ir that is a question as to whether someone is eligible to vote or not, let s air on the side of enfranchising them. we say, well, there is a question. you can cast your ballot. we are going to set it aside. we are going to check our data and see if you in fact can vote. if you can t, we will throw it out or prosecute you. if you can, we need to count that vote. here is the more radical solution. i was thinking about this. i now talk about my daughter all the time i realize i am talking about the daughter all the time. she got her social security card. the fact of the matter is, social security has found me wherever i moved my entire life. the whole notion that you have to proactively register to vote. why couldn t we just enroll everyone. the draft found me when i was 18. they knew exactly where i was living. they mailed the draft card to my house. they registered me.
now. it s been a problem for decades. as the governor of arizona herself indicated, what did george bush do during his eight years? did he do anything to solve this problem? he tried. he tried, karen, and he got no support. again, point being, this has been a problem for a very long time. i think just trying to pin this specifically and squarely on barack obama when, pat, other times you say he s taking on too much is a little, you know, out of bounds. the second thing let me respond to that. let me respond to the other thing you said, pat. it s my understanding that actually the way the law works, a police officer can determine that they have provocation to ask you for your papers if you will, if you look like a brown person, aka, you might be an illegal immigrant. excuse me. but it outlaws you have no idea what it feels like. when i was a young kid, i ll tell you, many of the time the police stopped, looked at you, said let me see your driver s license. let me see
failure to act responsibly at the federal level will only open the door to irresponsibility by others. that includes, for example, the recent efforts in arizona which threaten to undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as americans, as well as the trust between police and their communities that is so crucial to keeping us safe. expect some good conversation here from my boys, msnbc political analyst pat buchanan and democratic strategist peter fenn. good morning, guys. morning, alex. morning, alex. pat, isn t the president right in this sense? this gives the police the right to stop you if you re just walking down the street, not making any trouble at all. doesn t that strike you as unfair? well, my understanding is they can stop you and ask for identification. if there is a reasonable suspicion. i think a lot of us when we were young and peter might have been one of them, too, very often stopped by police and said, kid, show me your draft card or show me your d