house. and i was struck about your comment about tom and daisy. one of the people that we talked to for this story also made that comparison and said, you know, there was a kind of that ivanka just tossed up her hands and said look, i didn t get all the e-mailsn s about the specif of the rules. i don t know what you expect of me. that was the impression that people got. isn t there one thing that you would want to do coming into the trump white house, and that is to understand how you do e-mail right? i can t really think of anything else that there would be more important than that, dpimpb wgi happened during the campaign. carol, i m going to play a bit of sound and come back to you. i just want to mention for folks joining us, carol leonnig broke this story tonight, that ivanka trump was busted using a personal e-mail account to send hundreds of e-mails about