should be independent from congressional oversight. i think it s a seminal development here po except potential think as they are putting into print in the modern era like up trump or any president with financial conflicts of interest needs to be supervised more closely because it can corrupt or compromise policy making. and i think that goes beyond trump. it s a new element that trump introduced when he became president and it s good to see that being put in play, something to check. legally speaking, does this mean that the fight for congress to see the former president s taxes is over and they will get his returns? just about, anderson. this means it s highly likely. the law says that if the house, the ways and means myth, requests the toss-ups of any person, the irs shall furnish, that s what the law says, shall furnish those returns. the trump administration as tim
investigation is that robert mueller chose not to probe deeply into trump s finances which remains a mystery to me. not only in terms of trump, but any president who has financial conflicts of interest that need to be scrutinized and certainly would go a long way towards explaining what motivated a lot of trump s actions. and if the returns go to congress, is it possible the public would see them? yeah, i think it is. and potentially fairly quickly. we know the manhattan district attorney has had the returns for a year now. those are grand jury materialsful they have to remain secret. we won t see unless and until there is an indictment and trial. who knows? that s unlikely at this point. however, congress doesn t have the same limitations. but they should think about this. the position they have taken is we want those tax returns not just to embarrass the president, but because we need them to consider specific legislation we
very long were the justice department cited the former president s tax returns could re veal, quote, hidden business entanglements including conflicts of interest, affecting proper execution of the former president s responsibilities. to you see this as potentially res revealing liabilities? certainly. it would go a long way towards explaining why downnald trump engaged in corrupt and unseemly diplomatic dances with vladimir putin and other dictators. i think the easy explanation at the time, i think, and it was a real one, and had merit, was that he had a juvenile fascination with authoritarian leaders and he liked to preen around them. but i also think always in the back of donald trump s mind is how quickly can i make a buck. and i think that a very direct reason he was doing a lot of these things was in order to feather his own nest financially. and one of the unfortunate elements of a mueller
said bill barr came up with a convoluted legal theory, that doesn t apply, so we are not turning over anything unless the courts force us. today the biden doj reversed that. they said shall furnish means shall furnish so we are going to turn it turnover unless the courts stoppous. now the ball is in trump s court. if he does nothing, those tax returns are going to congress. or he can try to file a lawsuit to stop this. he is looking at a serious uphill climb legally. but that could take a long time, couldn t is? yeah, that could be the strategy, anderson. exactly. i think it s likely he does try. tim, you were saying given his history? sorry. i think in there they basically have given him a 72-hour window to try to come back at this. so they clearly have said we re opening a door. if you want to contest it, that door is not going to stay open
the department of justice to call the election illegal and corrupt and implied and threatened them they would be replaced if they didn t comply. and when doj pushed back and said, this is not true, there was no signs of corruption or illegal activity, he said just leave it to me. i will just go out and say it and the republican congressmen, we ll do the rest. it s shocking beyond belief. we are in the midst of an investigation. we is not have these documents that you are revealing tonight until early yesterday morning. and more are coming in. and we re not going to stop until we get to the bottom this. so those who aided or witnessed trump s unlawful actions must answer those committee questions about the attempted subversion of our democracy. it is extremely serious and we are not stopping until we get to the bottom of it. also for the president to say