conviction was overturned on the supreme court, based on faulty jury instructions. but for a small privately-held company, there s still collateral consequences. there s employees, fewer than arthur anderson but nevertheless employees. there s creditors and banks that have loaned money to the trump organization. and to your point, they may call those loans. a highly-leveraged company could be at risk. i don t know that it will go out of business. i don t know that it will declare bankruptcy. i don t know what the banks and creditors will do. but prosecutors have to think about the collateral consequences when deciding whether or not to charge an organization. i m sure they thought about it here. to the viewers, the same wisdom is available by downloading chuck s podcast. chuck rosenberg, couldn t ask for more detailed answers to our questions. as always, thank you for being our guest tonight. in our coverage, the house