pressed further and take more questions from the media on what is happening there at that federal courthouse and we ll certainly get back to the briefing room as that happens. but first, karl rove, former chief of staff and fox news contributor. great to have you here. as we have had a lot of legal analysis in the first half hour here, political implications are huge as well, and doug shone, a democrat, was on the network earlier and said this while it was unfolding in realtime. the facts as they are coming out are not helpful to the white house indeed what is coming out is clearly potentially, and i under score that, very harmful. this is a big day potentially for gavin newsom. your reaction to that, karl. i think doug is right. this is the absolute worst outcome for the biden white house. the plea deal, they have been sort of suggesting this was
long way away. in 2015 we were expecting it to be jeb bush as republican nominee, so i think there s really no way of knowing, but i expect the deep the bench to be deep. you can see a lot of people out there. mike pence is clearly putting himself front and center and there s others like nikki haley, certainly governor desantis is going to put himself out there. i expect them to be at least a dozen doing exploratory work right now. jacqui: and of course, desantis had the huge win in florida and many people say this is his time, but we ll see. thank you both so much for coming on, lee and doug, always great to see you. good to see you. jacqui: ahead, well over 100 hospitals in 21 states getting hit by a cyber attack putting patient s privacy and lives in danger. what does it keep happening? north korea firing off another missile test. while that s not new, officials warning this one could potentially hit the u.s. that s next. my fellow veterans because i know so
netanyahu. this is an influential room likely seen as the first cattle call of the 2024 election cycle. jacqui: thank you so much. we re not sure if or when the potential 2024 contenders will jump in. we do know that 76-year-old donald trump is in and soon to be 80-year-old joe biden indicated he ll run again. with a lot more younger voters turning out in 2022, will it be harder for them in 2024? joining me lee carter and doug shone. good to see you both. i don t want to be accused of being ageist here, but this is an ongoing conversation. joe biden at 80 and president trump at 76 currently, only going to be a little older when 2024 rolls around and we did see a lot of young voters turn out and there is some question about whether, both parties need just a little bit of fresh
polling? i suspect they have. everything i know about michael bloomberg suggests and has historically suggested that they come prepared. they re not the type of people to jump in cold water without knowing that it was very cold. but when you look as a morning poll out that shows that michael unfavorables are the highest in the primary race. i think it s like 25% unfavorability rating. does their internal polling show the same thing? do they have that? do they think that number can change? good question. what we ve been told by the bloomberg camp, i guess, it s not really a campaign yet s that as the polling that he s been monitoring and paying for, doug shone is his pollster, shown over time democrats have seen trump as more and more of a danger and become more and more attracted to someone of bloomberg s profile. now, they haven t told us what those numbers are or exactly what the horse race numbers would be. not only is the morning consult
neil: all right. ellison, thank you very much. ellison knows that 70 is the new 69. of course, the closer i get to those ages, the less i make a big deal of them. and anyway, sanders s first campaign event since being hospitalized and treated for a heart attack. attention today, the significant endorsement at least three members of the so-called squad expected to nod in his favor and not elizabeth warren s favor. the read on all of that with our panel right now. we ve got joe burrelly, doug shone and kathy, this is the squad seems to be saying he s our guy and not you, elizabeth. what do you think of that? they ve always from the senate, from the beginning it s been the squad and bernie. they ve always been on the same page and felt the bern. it s not the surprise, the surprise was when aoc was with warren. none ofs thought it was last because they ve always felt the bern. he s good at these voters.