directly with russia or between russia and turkey. but again, i think we have a very professional military in turkey, same with the united states force that s are there, and frankly russia increasingly professional as well. they know what they are dog, and they know what they have to do if they want to avoid coming into contact like that. so i think this is likely not to escalate. but as you say it s dangerous just because the fact they with forces in the same space involved in operations. kurt volcker, former u.s. ambassador to nato, sir. thank you. thank you. don t forget we ve been reporting from the beginning and what the white house has been refusing to admit, and that is that we have a proxy war here, you know. the russians are fighting for assad. we are fighting against assad. that s a proxy war. they don t want to call it that for obvious reasons, but that s what it is. and mistakes are problematic. double mits tamistakes can be b problems. the french president at the