along with analysts chuck rosenberg and lisa rubin. what can we expect based on arguments put forward in advance by both sides? reporter: to set the scene, because donald trump is here in person the security has really been ramped up. there s a much greater police presence. in terms of in the courtroom, this is a long shot for donald trump, this idea that a former president can t be prosecuted for any acts whited while serving in offense, it s belied by the fact that gerald ford pardoned richard nixon. this three-judge panel is an all-female panel with two judges appointed by president biden and one appointed by former president george h.w. bush. in addition to arguing immunity, trump lawyers are also making the argument that this produce is improper under double jeopardy. ken, i need to interrupt you because the hearing is starting. let s listen in right now. our jurisdiction was challenged by an amicus. you are not questioning our collateral order jurisdiction? [indis
jurisdiction. on the issue of immunity, midland at fault still applies, that s what you re making your distinction. right. it says most separation of powers claims may not be subject to interlocutory view, but there are some that may. it expressly contemplates interlocutory jurisdiction in this claim. in situations where the court said, look, there s a speech and debate claim and another claim that is closely akin to such a claim. again, about explicit, because in the double jeopardy trial scenario you have twice put in jeopardy, so you cannot be tried again in that regard. then in the speech and debate,