sort of dubious to claim those as savings when, i don t know, it s kind of double counting in a way. and then another 800 billion is from the phantom war savings. another issue to keep in mind, too. a lot of this has to do with the measuring stick you are using. the cbo when they measured obama s latest budget they found it would increase the budget pretty significantly. in any case 10 years from now under obama s plan, national debt would be 76.5% of g.d.p. and current little it s 74.2%. there you go. looking at the numbers from the speeches. it s always fun to jump in and now especially when we have this information at our finger tips we can do. this katy o donnell from the national journal, thanks so much for joining us this morning. thank you. still ahead actor chuck norris issuing a dire warning for america. country as we know it may be lost forever. he joins us with the explanation. and we telling you about a georgia school district banning prayers before
use the word arithmetic. president obama hasn t had the senate pass a budget in three years. in the health care law there are accounting tricks and double counting and double spending of money. i d like to get back to fundamental basic arithmetic. senator, thank you. nice to see you. coming up, they re back. your favorite political panel. tonight democrats counting on star power, will it work? you re going to hear from the panel next. we re going to have more live from charlotte. hard fought rights of women are on the ballot. democrats trust the judgment of women. we reject the republican assault on womens reproductive health. it s just plain wrong. when you go to the polls vote for womens rights. vote for president obama.
use the word arithmetic. president obama hasn t had the senate pass a budget in three years. in the health care law there are accounting tricks and double counting and double spending of money. i d like to get back to fundamental basic arithmetic. senator, thank you. nice to see you. coming up, they re back. your favorite political panel. tonight democrats counting on star power, will it work? you re going to hear from the panel next. we re going to have more live from charlotte. hard fought rights of women are on the ballot. democrats trust the judgment of women. we reject the republican assault on womens reproductive health. it s just plain wrong. when you go to the polls vote for womens rights. vote for president obama.
use the word arithmetic. president obama hasn t had the senate pass a budget in three years. in the health care law there are accounting tricks and double counting and double spending of money. i d like to get back to fundamental basic arithmetic. senator, thank you. nice to see you. coming up, they re back. your favorite political panel. tonight democrats counting on star power, will it work? you re going to hear from the panel next. we re going to have more live from charlotte. hard fought rights of women are on the ballot. democrats trust the judgment of women. we reject the republican assault on womens reproductive health. it s just plain wrong. when you go to the polls vote for womens rights. vote for president obama.
brothers and others? it seems like it what this panel has been saying numerous times that the healthcare law double counted in its addition. i m not sure its effect on the election but he is absolutely right that under the cbo rules and it actually acknowledges that the rules it s under requires double counting. under the cbo rules, they were double counting half a trillion dollars that was going to the medicare trust fund. it was also using the same half a trillion to stand on obamacare. now in the real world you can only spend a dollar once. you ask the president, when you have interview about what, a year ago, about this three times, about the double counting and danced around it because there is no answer. so if you do the ordinary count that anybody, any rational observer would look at and say actually, it was half a trillion dollars, under estimated in terms of the costs. so it s in deficit. bret: john, the new poll from the washington post /abc