hey, guys. how you doing? what s going on, man? hi. drop the hammer. nope. hey, hey, hey, hey. what is going on? i m not [bleep] i got him. send back-up, code 3. code 3 back-up unit [bleep] hands. code 3 as well. got it? code 3. sandra: police also releasing surveillance video from outside the pelosi home. you can see the suspect, david depape, approach the house and then start hammering at that glass door on the back porch. john: we have complete coverage from andy mccarthy is here, and former fbi special agent nicole parker. sandra: claudia is live in san francisco on the latest as the video was just released. claudia. the attack on paul pelosi drew national attention with inconsist reports spawning questions and conspiracy theorys, now we are all getting to see the actual footage after media outlet, including fox, sued the district attorney and a judge granted that request. in the predawn hours of october 28, 2 police officers knoc
triggered him to raise that hammer and bring it down on him. nicole. absolutely. in essence, the officers are coming to the door and evaluate what s going on. things move very quickly. trying to determine what the threat is, you know, trying to probably determine what they are seeing. they are probably realizing he s holding a hammer, they immediately tell him you put the hammer down and he says um, nope, and they move in immediately and by that point it s always something that we call action versus reaction in law enforcement. we have to make split second decisions because we know that you only have a split second to react before someone can be violently hurt, we witness in this instance. police officers moved in as quickly as they could and when you make a decision in those instances, a hammer, a deadly weapon. he could have killed mr. pelosi.
as to not instigate anything further. just bizarre from beginning to end, andy. yeah, because you are dealing with, you know, with people who are not rational, which is a problem in and of itself. i mean, you know, the police, when they come on the scene, have to confront that fact. mr. pelosi has to confront that fact when he s under threat, and talking about an 82-year-old man under a threat like this in the wee hours of the morning, it s a lot to ask for someone to handle. he seemed to my mind viewing this, he seemed to have handled it exceptionally well for somebody who was under the kind of stress he was under. john: we don t know what turned from that, where the situation seemed to be under control to the two of them hanging on to the hammer, which ultimately led to paul pelosi getting hit by it. my goodness, you can imagine
and cannot upset the person holding my hostage you put an emergency call in as quick as possible. he was doing everything he could to keep depape calm, and did depape know he was calling 911, did he think he was calling somebody else? when you look at the way that paul pelosi was speaking to a large degree in some sort of code to tell the 911 operator this is an emergency, he did a very good job of that, she did not do a good job of picking up on it, though eventually the police were dispatched. i think, john, it looks like just on our ability to hear that once, it looks like the assailant, depape, seemed to, you know, put 2 and 2 together as that call continued, because he clearly ran out of patience with whatever mr. pelosi was doing at the time, but i don t understand, even in a city the size of san francisco, you know,
in this situation they moved in quickly but unfortunately the defendant had already taken the hammer and hit mr. pelosi with it. but in those types of situations you want to be very, very careful, especially to be using deadly force especially when you have the hostage individual next to, you know, it s just a split second decision. you don t want to do a nonclean shoot, don t want to hurt mr. pelosi. they did the best they could with the information they had, acted as quickly as possible. sandra: nicole, final thought, were you surprised if you heard the conversation with andy mccarthy that this house, this address wasn t more on the radar of the police department when that phone call was made, considering paul pelosi was calling from the speaker of the house, one of the highest ranking government officials in the country? right, i mean, you would think that in that district that they might be familiar with who their residents are and that they lived in their area, but