and we talked about it, jamie and kelly, that in these situations that are happening quickly, the information is flowing and we want to be as responsible as we can. those are the things we can confirm at this hour and we re trying to get more information. kelly: bret, we thank you for the update, especially the confirmation now, fox news as bret just informed us, that congress woman gabrielle giffords has been shot and as we were reporting earlier on, at that time, unconfirmed reports now we have the confirmation and also that three of her staff, three members of her staff, arizona-based staff were actually shot as well. we re still trying to get an update on the total number of people who have been shot as bret just indicated it ranging from 12 to 15, early reports it was 12. an eyewitness telling us she heard 15 shots going off at that time and the gunman being attacked, according to her, and apprehended immediately. for those of you just joining