have heard, is voters who have a deal with themselves that maybe biden can get in there and serve one term and then make way for somebody else, or that biden s going to recover some of what they liked about him in 2012. you do hear just a lot of excuse making by people, and i don t want to say i don t want to demean, there are people who loved him for years, want him to run for president eight years ago, ten years ago, 20 years ago and they re all in. a lot of the support from people who thought based on the polling, and still look at the polling and say if he s up by 15 and warren is up by 8, he s the safe choice. they ve not seen evidence yet though more keeps emerging as a nominee against donald trump he might have some issues. the thing to watch here is not so much the immediate spin from the debate but what the trump campaign and what other kihei maekawas a maekawas democrats are doing with footage from the debate and trying to get in as many inboxes as possible video of biden