advance his personal interest, mainly he sought to pressure the ukrainian leader to help actions to help the president s 2020 re-election bid. the whistle-blower goes on to say the white house officials were deeply disturbed by what had transpired in the phone call and witnessed the president abuse his office for personal gain. the complaint also says in the months prior to the call, trump did not want to meet with zilinski or talk with him on the phone until he saw how zilinski chose to act in office and wanted to see if he showed a willingness to quote play ball. according to the complaint in the days following the call senior white house officials had interphened to lockdown all records of the phone call. the whistle-blower wrote this under scored that white house officials understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call which leads to the next allegation that some were directed by white house lawyers
that i have been in touch with, he s clearly worried in a way that he hasn t been before. there is some shaking of the republican ranks. it is interesting. his comments about these people in the white house who gave information to the whistle-blower are essentially spies and it s treasonous. he wants to see these people dead. his view is that by people telling the truth about something that happened, if what the whistle-blower is saying is accurate, that is tantamount to a treason against the country, when in fact, it is just reporting something that the president has done that is apparently inappropriate. this is exactly right what you said. and this is also why people like mattis and tillerson and mcmaster concluded that not only was this president really fundamentally corrupt putting
would be somebody in the state department who would say yes we talked to him and he was given this assignment if that was the case. i noticed in the article where he called everybody a moron, that same article, he says the state department is now going to try to distance themselves from me. so i think he may know he has overreached in what he is pretending is his authority. the state department, of course, is still part of the trump administration and trump is still hids client. in a phone call with the reporter at the atlantic, giuliani called himself both a hero and a whistleblower and he said that he was going to be proven correct, not the actual whistleblower. does that make any sense to you at all? not at all. in fact, i don t know what s happened to rudy. i remember when he used to speak in full sentences and logically. it s hard to find those now. in fact, the fact that he
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it sounds like there are a lot of issues about whether other white house officials will be allowed to speak because of executive privilege by this white house. that lock box system, is it clear to you that that can actually be looked into since it s highly classified? i don t know. but there seems to be a good number of witnesses to all kinds of events and all kinds of memoranda that were recorded. we ll see. but what we have now is a whole different dynamic about the future of this presidency that was not there a week ago. if there is any doubt about it, we see not only the president s words about abusing power in the whistle-blower s complaint, we also heard the president live today on tape talking about killing spies, talking about offing the people who brought this information to the this information to the attention of the whistle-blower. so what we now see is a kind of corruption both of the original acts in which the president has tried to hijack the electoral system of our de