former trump national security advisor. i thought it was interesting to see a republican senator mark rube owe on one side saying don t think about it and manchin said don t take everything off the table. here is the problem and it is tragic because it is not fair. the ukrainian people are fighting for their independence but at the end of the day what happens with a no-fly zone. the united states would step in and guarantee no airplanes are flying over ukraine. whose airplanes are flying over ukraine now? russian. we would have to shoot down russian airplanes and would trigger world war iii. it is possible to give them the weapons they need to fight and defend themselves by themselves. there is a distinct difference between the two. i would urge the latter and not the former. harris: i m looking through my notes here because just a short time before we went live
that republican presidents will be too hawkish. so the obama administration suffered when swing voters thought they were too weak. trump stands to benefit if they think he is cautious. he worries about swing voter republicans and also jacksonians in his base who have an isolationist strength. i think this may have helped him with both groups. i think in isolation you re right. i think what doesn t help him is to look so erratic. and undisciplined. and so what are the unintended consequences. he is a bluffer. yes, he followings through every once in a while, so you never know. but it does seem as he is developing a reputation around that world leaders know don t take everything at face value. that is the unintended consequences, foreign policy, their allies still didn t know what he will do so they hang back. and we saw that when the ships were mined in the straigt of
but it would set a series of chain reactions over asia where they remember japan as the aggressor in world war ii. but you have the tramp aump saying don t take everything in the campaign literally. but that s the thing. assault and battery took a 12-hour flight from tokyo to make sure those words were not were not literal. were not literal and i think that is probably the more important reason than just getting to know trump. but they re wondering are we meant to take this play this game. are you meant to take it seriously or literally? it will be interesting how many foreign leaders take that multihour flight to trump tower to figure this out. fareed zakaria, as always, thank you, make sure you watch fareed
now if you re running japan and you re the prime minister and you heard a candidate say that they re going to have go it alone, we ll have to pull troops out of the region and they re probably going to have to get nukes to protect themselves from north korea, you d be nervous, too. so when you hear him saying i m coming to build trust with the president-elect he s coming to find out what if h is going on. then he wants to build trust. we know one of the aides of the japanese prime minister was talking to the trump team because they were saying japan should arm itself with nukes and this trump aide said, hey, don t take everything mr. trump said on the campaign trail literally, barry. so if he were to take that thought and apply it to many other things he said on the trail, do you think that applies? are we being too literal with mr. trump? i think you have to give him a chance. in the campaign you say all kinds of things.
them as terrorists just as isis are terrorists. so he made it very clear. this was his first chance to react to how that meeting went. and he was also whether hillary clinton was half-baked in saying today or last night, that she agrees with a no-fly zone in syria, which is basically the john mccain position, and he said she s not half-baked, she was my secretary of state, but when you re president of the united states, it s different than when you re running for president, and i have to make the judgments that you make when you re sitting in that situation room. yeah, that comment, that was as close as you re going to hear the president criticize hillary clinton, but he essential said she s just being a candidate right now and don t take everything she says at face value. what that was what was stunning about that remark. exactly. so much going on, i know you have to get to work. i ll talk to you soon. let s turn now to whether millions of us on the east