baggage in this case. the benefit is you have got a lot of spaces. usually big facilities. you can put time and distance if you are running. pete: let s say you have got a chance to go at this guy, when would did you go at a shooter. abby: that s what he would do. pete: you would have people there saying hey i have got to do something about this. absolutely. first of all, it s a decision i talked about that last time. that s a decision have you got to have made up in your mind like before. if you are someone like yourself. i know talking to our colleagues yesterday, hey this guy is making a mag change, we re going to end this situation right away. but not everyone is trained to do that. not everyone has got that, you know, that mind set. so you have got to know and what we encourage most people to do is get off, run, use time and distance to get away from the threat and understand that x and that threat can move. if you leave baggage, you know, don t settle down. don t start walking