growth capitalism. so no, i don t buy all of that. but look, i ve never taken a job where i ve left my conscience at the door and haven t started now. you know democratic socialists asendant in your party and a lot of people on left have a national skepticism about you if you choose to run just because of everything you just said to me about your belief in capitalism. does that concern you at all about fact that there are going to be so many skeptical of you on the left if you choose to run? well, first of all, jake, thank you but don t interview me for 2020 yet, i m not ready to be a candidate for 2020 but i m used to skepticism. i ve been in i grew up in the south side of chicago and have had an extraordinary experience living the american dream. and as a black man in lots of
run? well, first of all, jake, thank you but don t interview me for 2020 yet, i m not ready to be a candidate for 2020 but i m used to skepticism. i ve been in i grew up in the south side of chicago and have had an extraordinary experience living the american dream. and as a black man in lots of settings where i was not quote, supposed to be, you ve got to know i m accustomed to skepticism and i understand that a lot of people in a lot of settings have a bad habit of looking first at the cartoon of somebody and i have trained myself to look past the cartoon and understand how i have to invite people to look past the first cartoon they see of me. that s part of campaigning. should i go there as part of the experience i had in running for governor. i worked as you know i think
including the swiss ambassador who represents u.s. interests. she was hanging outside the courtroom all day yesterday trying to get information, trying to get in. they wouldn t allow her. things are very enclosed. another ominous sign, chuck, is the judge presiding over the trial is an extremely hard line judge who has a reputation for handing down very, very severe sentences. chuck? ali, there s no expectation that somehow these two hikers, they re trying to figure out a way to release them in some form or another? reporter: i have no doubt there are back-room deals to be made, people talking to try to get them out. president ahmadinejad talked about showing the maximum leniency, but the judiciary here that s very powerful basically brushed them aside and said, listen, this is our jurisdiction, we ll deal wit. don t interview. having said that there was