united states which has an innovation-based economy. that s our goal. our goal is to get the chinese to stop stealing our intellectual property and it would be a nice thing if they actually honored their trade agreements with this. that s what the goal of this is. charles: another goal was to open up the chinese market so we would have less of a trade imbalance; right? if they could buy 150, 200 billion dollars worth of stuff more from us, including the chips that the american companies want to sell to huawei, isn t that a key part of what the president entered this for? do we forget about that part and focus mostly on the security aspect? well, you know, the president has talked about the trade deficit, and clearly this trade deficit is a reflection of the chinese stealing our ip and also the trade violations. so i think that if you don t focus on the trade deficit, as its goal, but you look at what we should be doing, we re going to be at a much better place. charles: we have to re