plan with obamacare repealed. but 2024 under president obama s. is that true? what is the solution to that? no. the same experts also say you can t spend the same dollar twice. you can t take it from medicare and spend it on obamacare and then pretend to deep it in medicare. you can t have it both ways and the president is being hypocritical on this. we re saying to leave medy care intact today. we ll borrow money but we can do that if we put reforms in place for the next generation to guarantee it s sustainable and solvent for them. what w very, very clear. don t change medicare benefit for people in or near retirement. but to guarantee promise of medicare for current retirees and those about to retire we need to reform it for your generation a my generation, bret. bret: democrats are accusing you to redefine rape. you cosponsored legislation to
plan with obamacare repealed. but 2024 under president obama s. is that true? what is the solution to that? no. the same experts also say you can t spend the same dollar twice. you can t take it from medicare and spend it on obamacare and then pretend to deep it in medicare. you can t have it both ways and the president is being hypocritical on this. we re saying to leave medy care intact today. we ll borrow money but we can do that if we put reforms in place for the next generation to guarantee it s sustainable and solvent for them. what we are saying is very, very clear. don t change medicare benefit for people in or near retirement. but to guarantee promise of medicare for current retirees and those about to retire we need to reform it for your generation a my generation, bret. bret: democrats are accusing you to redefine rape. you cosponsored legislation to
politically. that is, i want you to sell me this politically. because as you know, some of your members went home and took a beating on medicare. the idea that medicare, as we know it, would be replaced by a subsidy system that would be capped for those as you get wealthier. a lot of people said don t change medicare, we see this in the polls. so you have that, that the republicans are at least your plan and many republicans backing it, is out there. then you have republicans refusing to say, yes, we ought to cut the subsidies we give to the multi-multi billion dollar oil industry. sell that to me politically. how is that a shared sacrifice? first, i would say our town hall meetings went phenomenally well. mine in particular. second of all, medicare is going broke. the trustees reminded us of this last week. it is not a question of if medicare is going to change. it clearly is because it is going broke. the question is how will we reform it.
is what the democrats are arguing and, some of that argument seems to be getting a little bit of traction. reporter: because the economists agree but if you go to the american people, you know what they say? extend the tax cuts. shepard: and don t change social security, and don t change medicare, and don t cut defense spending, and we will run out of money. our real unfunded liabilities and doubt amount to 91 percent. 91 percent. reporter: it is unsustainable. that is not what you hear, the economists, and state department, and the military but if this season of light and hope maybe the american people think there is a santa claus. shepard: there is good stuff today, 55 years ago today we have a black president in the white house and 50 years ago rosa park made her stand in alabama. reporter: i talked to her