knows the reality. is the president making up an emergency? absolutely not. bruin, this is part of the frustration for those of us from a law enforcement, border security perspective. how many more statistics do we have to provide? how many more factually based examples do we have to provide? how many more angel families have to stand in front of the individuals before they will family say yeah, okay, this is real? this is incredulous. it s true. the other thing i thought about, too, mark. i know you served on the obama years. there was an emergency then. they chose not to act on it. it doesn t mean there is not one now and it doesn t mean they are not getting worse. the numbers this year show a huge uptick in apprehensions. that doesn t count the people we don t catch. so when people say to you the drugs are coming through the port of entry, use technology to crack down there. there is no problem with drug information the middle of the country.
mark, is the president making up an emergency? absolutely not. bruin, this is part of the frustration for those of us from a law enforcement, border security perspective. how many more statistics do we have to provide? how many more factually based examples do we have to provide? how many more angel families have to stand in front of the individuals before they will family say yeah, okay, this is real? this is incredulous. it s true. the other thing i thought about, too, mark. i know you served on the obama years. there was an emergency then. they chose not to act on it. it doesn t mean there is not one now and it doesn t mean they are not getting worse. the numbers this year show a huge uptick in apprehensions. that doesn t count the people we don t catch. so when people say to you the drugs are coming through the port of entry, use technology to crack down there. there is no problem with drug information the middle of the country. other areas that are populated? what do you say?
them. congressman clay higgins, we re glad you re here. this is poppy harlow. point of fact, it s gone down. the number of total illegal boarder crossings has gone down. we ve shown the chart many times. wrong. it s not wrong. how do you count the ones, madam, that you don t catch? how do you count the ones that you don t catch, sir? we re counting the ones that we do catch. and that s what i m counting. congressman, i really we don t want to argue with you, congressman, we want to have a civil conversation so let me ask the question as the team gets the chart and we ll give you the sourcing. my question to you is you say there are not any good faith negotiations from democrats and jim and i see the democrats digging in here and not counteroffering. but was it a good faith negotiation of the president when republicans controlled both chambers of congress and he controlled the white house and he walked away from a deal that would have given him $25 billion for the border
point out? isis has said, use the u.s. s southern border as a method of getting in. have we been lucky it hasn t been worse? i guess so. you could say that, but, you know, it has been quite bad. there have been a number of terrorists we have caught, and i think anyone who is familiar with the southern border knows for every individual we catch there s probably at least three or four that we don t catch. so i can only imagine the number of terrorists who have already successfully entered over the southern border. you know, another area where terrorists have been abusing the system is the refugee program. since the early 90s there have been 18 major terrorists who fraudulently used our refugee program to get into this country, including some very big names and master minds of the 1993 attack on the world trade center, for example. so the blind sheik another example. we have been, i guess you could say, lucky. bear in mind i don t want to say we re that lucky because there are certainl
to down do 100 feet. why would you ever allow somebody make a plane automatically fly at 100 feet. what good can come from that? part of it is we trust our pilots the entire system relies on some sort of sense they know what they re doing and this fell apart when you have a suicidal pilot. you could think of ways in which you could override a pilot who is putting in numbers that don t make sense do air traffic control. we rely on our pilots that s why there s so much focus on who are they are they getting the help they need. i have to agree with jim on not just the two pilots in the cockpits the but also the cameras. the reason why is no system is perfectly safe. but the more levels of security can you put in the more sort of barriers the more difficult you make it you reduce risk. you re not going to get it to zero there s always going to be the person you don t catch. the more barriers can you put on and the debate about cameras in the cockpit. we need to end it now. they need to g