that s part part of what we heard from the pentagon today at their briefing was that they were going through these distribution list that there was there were pressed several times by reporters, including our own oren liebermann about what specifically, that would mean how many people could be losing access. they say that s what they re what they re working through, and we ll see if we get some more reporting on that. samuel oxford colonel leighton robert litt appreciate you joining us tonight. thank you. thank you. thank you. outfront next new legal trouble for trump to his former top aides have just testified in the criminal investigation into trump s handling of classified documents. so who are they? and what do they know? plus cnn obtaining new recordings of rudy giuliani essentially telling one fox host heat can t prove the allegations that trump s team was making about dominion. what about this software software? actually, that s a little harder, troubling. the attorney for the f
. gross work was fired by the network after she sued fox, alleging she was coerced into giving misleading testimony in a deposition for the dominion case out front. now is jerry philippa . does abby grossberg s lawyer, jerry? good to have you with us tonight? so these recordings that have now been handed over and that were then played? why did abby record these conversations? hi erica. thanks for having me on to really set the record straight until abby s true story. uh, abby kept these records in the normal course of business as the defacto executive producer for miss bartiromo. she acted as miss bartiromo s scribe, essentially because been sparta elmo mostly did not take notes. and so abby used this software which, by the way, my understanding is it s quite prevalent in and the news industry. so for uh, for fox and fox is attorneys to say that they weren t aware of any such
has a plethora of evidence that we intend to use in our two litigations, the one being the dominion lawsuit in delaware, where we re alleging this widespread conspiracy for her to give essentially false testimony and the other being, of course, her her her case in the southern district of new york, which has to do with the horribly toxic work environment that she experienced at fox, especially at the tucker carlson show in in in what is, you know? a just a very, very bizarre set of circumstances that would exist nowadays. i just want to say one other thing that indicates exactly i ll be very quick. that indicates how how critical it is that that fox attorneys start telling the truth. in a court of law. the judge, davis said yesterday. um in in in regard to these these tapes, right? abby grossberg is not dominions problem. it s not my problem. abby grossberg is fox s problem . what that means is that abby grossberg did exactly what she
thing. and it was a surprise to them. strange gradual, itty. so this is so people who aren t familiar with it. you re talking about the otter app. correct that you used, which would which essentially makes it makes an audio recording, and then it can provide a quick transcription of that. yes so you said maria barroom. oh, didn t take notes as part of her job. abby would do this. so abby would then record these conversations that audio that we just played this from november of 2020. why did she hold on to those recordings? well that recording and a few others were made on her personal phone, and, um, therefore she held on to it, but it s important to note that abby turned over her personal phone and her fox news phone to the fox attorneys who we contend we re we re preparing or rather aggressively to shade the truth. and who were coercing or to give testimony that was put her in a false light and ultimately caused her to defame herself
through a transcript that she wasn t allowed to review and in any event she gave over those devices twice to fox news in preparation for her deposition, and the second time she specifically very specifically alerted fox news. to the fact that the otter program was on there. so when i said i want to record said the record straight and a lot has been said in the last few days, for instance, yesterday, uh dominions attorneys stood up in open court and stated something that i think is demonstrably false. let me just read it to you. it s very brief. so this is the this is fox s attorney, and he says. and so miss grossberg did not tell us that. uh and so miss grossberg did not tell us that. miss grossberg did not say that there were responsible, responsive audio recordings from that relevant time period. and