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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:17:00

billionaire, supposedly, lying aboutq $130,000 payoff to a por star to cover up an affair a couple of days before a presidentiylk■election. you want equal justice under the law, kevin mccarthy, then you ll get it. and donald trump will be charged with this because, mike, these other people, you know what they think, those poort( schmucks, is just like the rioters, one after another, that aree1 rotting in jailñr right now because of dond trump, and donald trump is still sittinge1 in mar-a-lago, and here s kevw.$s,(p)thy stille1e1 defending donald trump for things that would havexd sent other people to prison years ago. you know,t( joe, i would modestly suggeste1 that you aren to something heree1 in your discussion just now. it s much larger in a sense than what is going on with all the

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:17:00

my god, it looks like that s getting worse. that took a turn yesterday that should cause trump even more concern than what s happening with the d.a. in manhattan. yeah, joe and mika, i ve been saying from the beginning that the greatest threat to donald trump s future freedom is the mar-a-lago document matter, and for those who say that, well, pence did it, biden did it, so that somehow insulates donald trump, no, it s not the possession of the documents. it s the refusal to give them back. it s the obstruction, punishable by up to 20 years in prison. it is so unusual to breakthrough attorney/client privilege. that s what the court did here. they found that there was a crime fraud exception, that the lawyer evan corcoran was used to facilitate a crime. what crime would that be but obstruction. here you had christina bobb who sent a letter to the department of justice saying we turned over

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:23:00

you really going to vote for hillary clinton. and here we have basically sort of equivalent of maybe one of the toughest gop primaries since 1976, reagan and ford. and you ve got desantis coming in, and i m not comparing him to reagan, so please, everybody save your little tweets for somebody who gives a damn, but you have somebody coming in a reagan-like figure to the republican base, so suddenly, as you said, when people see trump in front of, you know, getting arrested the first time, getting arrested the second time, if he gets arrested the third time, they re not going to go, yeah, i ll go with a guy who keeps getting indicted over joe biden, they ll go ron desantis, he s not getting arrested and he actually won in 2022. he was a reagan-like figure in florida if you just look at the landslide that reagan was in

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:37:00

that is such a compelling message. it s going to be hard for trump to get around that. yeah, and certainly right now desantis is the beneficiary of all the anti-trump forces coalescing around him. this is an interesting moment for desantis who up until this point has really held his tongue. trump has been attacking him, you know, day after day after day. a lot of it relentless and unfair, and desantis has ignored it, and he s chosen now to start engaging. but to your point, doing so in a way where he s laughing at trump. he s not hitting back with criticisms, but he is no longer ignoring him altogether. we heard his comment from the stage the other day about the indictment and the porn stars and now this interview with piers morgan. we don t know if that s fueled by his slip in polls. he s the one republican using this moment, which is clearly a perilous moment for trump, and

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:33:00

nickname that trump gave you so far? is it ron desanctimonious? i can t i don t know how to spell desanctimonious, i don t know what it means. i kind of like it, it s long, i ve got a lot of vowels. we can go with that. you can call me whatever you want, just as long as you also call me a winner. wow. wow. willie went after him. i d be curious. trump would rather be perp walked a thousand times than have fox news piers morgan ron desantis laughing at him. look at that, it s a nice little warm family get together. fox, the post, giving ron desantis whatever he wants and desantis laughing at trump, and

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