to fly out of washington, d.c. until the 6:00 p.m. tonight. instead, they very quietly gathered a press pool and left yesterday about 4:15. the president appeared in kyiv, not on his original itinerary. we were told he was just coming to poland to commemorate the one year anniversary of the russian invasion instead he droons into an active war zone. the new york times is reporting that he took an hour s long train ride from poland into the ukrainian capital that is besieged by the russians right now and while there he announced an extra half a billion dollars in new u.s. security assistance. listen. that announcement includes artillery ammunition for himars and howitzers, nor javelins, raiders, they will protect the people from aerial bombardments. he rattled off a lot of different kinds of assistance. it is all equipment that the u.s. has given ukraine so far. ukrainians van v. been asking for f-16s that s not on the list of things the president gave as half a billion do
kherson, donetsk and luhansk which is pretty much the donbas region will industrial base plus crimea. if we were to ever recognize which we won t. brian: give up the country. not the country. 20%. brian: the most industrious part of the country exactly and i m not advocating this. lisa: donbas region? brian: it was a contested region. lisa: 2014. brian: crimea more of a vacation spot. should have never been allowed to be taken. to say give up 25% of the country because they want it and think is going to stop there is crazy. i m not advocating. brian: thank you for joining us. of course, thank you nor having me. lisa: thank you so much, appreciate it. steve: all right. let s get back to the breaking news. that is that the president of the united states apparently is on the ground in ukraine so is
achieve that goal. here is what he repeated repeatedly what victory looks like to him. it s evicting the russians from the entire territory of ukraine. lisa: is that feasible? it s absolutely not. because the russians entrenched, especially in crimea. it s an existential it s not feasible. somebody needs to realize that the strategy of just throwing weaponry is not going to work. weaponry and technology do not win wars. strategy does. and, unfortunately, despite 10 years worth of every single piece of intelligence that we had back in the intelligence community, we had scores of war gaming. predicting and going through this conflict and how it s going to unralph, right? how it s going to unravel is going to ratchet up if tensions
should when we are talking about something that could full scale war with russia. one we sent 196 billion of either committed or already sent money. where is that money going? is it being fully audited watch dogs raised concerns how that money is being spent. we don t know what it s being spent. what does winning look like in ukraine as well. look, russia took crimea in 2014. also the eastern part of the donbas region. does winning mean expelling russia from those parts? is it feasible? is it possible? what s it going to take and senator lindsey graham with all due respect he was fine with a 20 year war with afghanistan. that wasn t long enough for him. brian: that s not true, lisa, that s not true. lisa: what was the exit strategy. brian: hold the area. keep an eye on the terrorists and make sure china and iran know that we re go and we hold bagram. this president i had 00 particularly thought it would be a great idea just to leave and
embarrass ourselves and leave our equipment there he was for not elm waiver wassing the country. lisa: i know we all interview a lot of military individuals on this show, you know, i have interviewed a lot of people on my podcast as welling and combat guys, special forces, people who saw war a lot of war in afghanistan. the mountains of afghanistan so a lot of their friends i do. brian: it s not a matter of us being skepticism, let them absorb all of eastern europe in why not. they took a third of georgia we did nothing. they took crimea in the donbas we did knowing. at one point do you think we should sit there and watch history repeat itself again are we not that stupid to learn from history. lisa: with all due respect what s the objective. backing up an ally to make sure they are not absorbed by an evil nation.