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Transcripts for MSNBC Up With David Gura 20191228 13:20:00

trial at all. nancy pelosi has that in terms of leverage and see knows there is one person that really, really wants a trial right now to try to clear his name and get himself acquitted, that person is donald trump. let me ask you about another person who has become a principal, senator lisa murkowski of alaska. she sat down with our affiliate for an interview. let s listen to remarks about how the majority leader s mind has been made up already. in fairness when i heard that, i was disturbed. to me it means we have to take that step back from being hand in glove with the defense. and so i heard what leader mcconnell had said. i happen to think that that has further confused the process. susan, you got the new york

Transcripts for MSNBC Up With David Gura 20191228 13:07:00

get ma nuch others. the other disparate issues versus that, the key issue here of getting donald trump out of let me ask you about the office? reporter: getting president trump out of office is the top casualty of all this and the priority, especially when you agitation or excitement about listen to voters and what what is in the documents. they re listening for. i go back to the landmark piece that s also a cause of a divide in which they got some small part of the tax returns along you hear on the trail. eight benefit for vice president with thousands of pages. biden where you have democratic something that should have made voters believing that biden a huge splash. it didn t make the seismic appeals to more moderate voters, that he can pull over some of change to our conversation about this president that perhaps they those republicans that were lost should have. or more moderate voters lost in yeah. no, i mean, it basically 2016 but then you have revealed that trump s own pro

Transcripts for MSNBC Up With David Gura 20191228 14:29:00

whether president trump is willing to acknowledge the fact that north korea has already, you know, kind of blown through the moratorium that president trump likes to take credit for and missile testing. the only thing is that so far those missile tests have been short range. and while they do violate u.n. security council resolutions, trump has been willing to overlook that. and say, well, kim hasn t broken any promises to me. once an icbm is launched, that does directly break the promise that trump says kim made to him to give time for their personal diplomacy to bear fruit. and, you know, that s that s the bargain that trump has laid out here. you know, his personal relationship with kim could do something that traditional diplomacy hasn t been able to do. once kim violates the sort of

Transcripts for MSNBC Up With David Gura 20191228 14:32:00

policy. for us to be sitting here and put any credence into the notion that these love letters of kim jong-un are making things better, kim jong-un knows that donald trump is so invested in the appearance of this being a success that kim jong-un has all the running room in the world he wants to conduct tests. the u.s. would be raising issues with our allies and partners and at the u.n. even with the short range test if this was a normal administration. he has given this guy a pass because he wants to look like he did something that worked. the it has not worked. last question to you on the role of china in all of this. we have seen north korean leader take that heavy armored train back and forth from china over the last many months. what role do they play? how big an x factor is china in the conversations over the future of the north korean regime? so china is the most important economic partner to north korea. the u.n. sanction that s have been on north korea, particularly the one

Transcripts for MSNBC Up With David Gura 20191228 13:04:00

and 26% as liberal. away and the lower court so it seems pretty clear that decisions would have stood. you cannot win the presidency your sense of the importance just with progressive votes. of all of this and, again this is played out over a very long so i think there s basically two period of time. the we re approaching the next main issues beside trump s election. let s go back to that point, fitness for office and those what the president s setting would be health care and the might be. state of the economy. it s hugely important. it makes absolutely no and on health care it s hard to difference. i mean, that s the situation we re in. you know, take this in stages. see how mandatory medicare for all would be a winner in the first, it s the typical norms are collapsing. states the democrats need to so then work for president obama win. it doesn t matter if they win i worked for secretary clinton california by five votes or 5 and president obama through that way. these folks put

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