unconstitutional, and he should stop. the question is what did meadows do with the question. michael, if you had any updates in terms of the timeline of the january 6th committee, basically operating under, and whether we ll see the public hearings that have been rumored about some time, let us know. also, if you wanted to address the first clip at the top of this, perdue flat out saying at the start of the debate the other night against brian kemp, the republican governor, the race in georgia, that the 2020 election was stolen. we hear it from donald trump all the time, but it seems surprising to have it so front and center from what had been considered a somewhat mainstream republican until this. well, i think, you know, if you look at the developments of the past week and what we have learned from the audio that came out about mccarthy, or the filing that came out about meadows, is that these members of congress, whether it was mccarthy who was talking to trump or it was meadows
the former soviet troops, the russians. by doing so, he would be able to say this is disputed territory. i think the ukrainians would have to say, as president zelenskyy has said he would, that we can negotiate. crimea and parts of eastern ukraine, perhaps, and draw a cease-fire line. let s have a cease-fire of this. this is if you re talking about the scenario you put out, the russians want to save face, have a permanency with occupied territory that could be settled the next five to ten years. walter, let s talk about what happened in france last night. sounds great, yeah. talk about how quickly history changes. here we had for four years donald trump trying to destroy nato. along with, obviously, vladimir putin, marine le pen talking about destroying nato.
walter isaacson, thank you so much. we ll note that walter s best-selling book the codebreaker is now available in a young reader s edition. it is good. i had trouble following the regular one. this is going to be perfect. perfect for you, joe. there we go. thank you, walter. thank you all so much. ahead on morning joe, new reporting reveals donald trump s former chief of staff, mark meadows, was hold beforehand the events of january 6th could turn violent. the question is, what did he do with that information? plus, georgia voters will head to the polls this november and cast their pick for governor. instead of focusing on 2022, the two republican candidates seem to be stuck on 2020. are you kidding me? you re watching morning joe. good way to lose a race. we ll be right back. finding the perfect designer isn t easy. but, at upwork, we found her. she s in austin between a dog named klaus and her favorite shade of green.
saw the size of the crowd behind you in ohio with the former president. his fans still fervent. talk to us a little about what we also saw in georgia. we were talking a little this morning. david perdue basically saying the central platform of my campaign is the 2020 election was rigged. that, of course, not true. he is losing the polls to governor kemp who says otherwise. doesn t this also show how tight trump s grip is on so much of the republican party? shows how tight his grip is. at the same time, though, i was talking with somebody close to the former vice president. says, look, this is becoming a referendum on trump at the same time. and the big lie here. if david perdue, who staked his claim on the 2020 election conspiracy, is not able to win on may 24th, if the likes of, you know, we see jd vance, who has taken the big lie mantra, is not able to win his primary on may 3rd. if herbster in nebraska.
functioning political party and a cult. a functioning political party will have a certain, you know will have guidelines, guardrails, and standards, and say, we re not going to cross this particular line. the need to make, you know to adapt. whereas, what you have now is a party where no one is prepared to stand up and do the right thing. i mean, they re all terrified to be liz cheney. by the way, speaking of liz cheney, i think the rather dramatic contrast last week, the same day we got the mccarthy tape, we had the kennedy school announce that liz cheney was the winner of their profile in courage. yet, so many republicans would rather kiss donald trump s ring than be remembered for their courage. i think that says something about the party, but it also says something about the incentives in our political culture right now. it s also talking about the conservatism of ron desantis.