we don t need military troops there to enforce the process that is already being executed properly. donald, your thoughts? do we need the troops or not? or is trump playing fast and loose here? cbp is 80% undermanned. if only for a short period, if these troops can support them so the officers can do their job, it s important. if they re observing and providing support, let them do their jobs so they can do what they re hired to do. i ll give you a shot at this. should the president close the border down? does he have the authority to do so? donald and joel. 10 second each. whether or not he should or should not, that remains a question as we look forward to the caravan. does he have the authority? absolutely. it s his right to defend our borders and protect the united states citizens. joel, if he believes there s a national security threat, clearly he can close down the border. national security threat
ability of the president to send the troops there, it s a bad judgment. this president has a habit of using our troops as political props and that was the intent for this prior to the mid-terms to turn out the vote. the troops are doing nothing, waiting. doing support. we have civilian enforcement that can do the job. we don t need our troops there. donald, are you concerned about the human stampede being a reality? is that what we saw when the border was under pressure? this stampede is a real reality. a lot of these folks are known criminals and we found weapons among them.
even in tijuana, they re talking about disorderly conduct. these are not people we want in the united states. we have a right to protect our borders. donald, i want to play something for you. this is senator kamala harris. i want your reaction. the folks are there, they left their families, they will not be home it looks like for thanksgiving and all because there needed to be a demonstration for the tv cameras based on a political agenda. laura: does the president have the authority here? to deploy troops in this way? there is the act that forbids using the military to enforce domestic law. does that apply here? these soldiers and sources, they re not law enforcement officials. but he does have the right to deploy them. it s his right as commander-in-chief to support this country, whether it s humanitarian aid or supporting
we can t my father waited a year in line before he had his papers recognized. then he came with a sponsor and then served in the military. thank you, gentlemen, for your contribution. here now to explore whether the president has the constitutional authority to use u.s. troops to protect the border and on american soil, the border agents, we re joined by donald cramer. a former intelligence officer and iraq veteran, joel ruben, former obama secretary of state. joel,you believe the president was wrong because of the unclear mission. but isn t protecting the southern border and enforcing standing immigration laws mission enough? well, ray, there s no mission. there s no military mission