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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:02:00

said he would lower the number from 5 to 1. he said he previously not accept that. congress and matt gaetz, he nominated donald trump for the speakership and described the power to remove the speaker as anyone, anywhere, anytime, raising questions about whether anybody whether it s mccarthy or somebody else can remain speaker for long. mccarthy has not moved the needle at all. he s failed to persuade anyone of the members who have been refusing to vote for him and vote after vote after vote over the past three days. the dysfunction that s playing out on capitol hill today, and we will debate if that s the right word anymore, on the second anniversary of the attack on the u.s. capitol is

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 22:14:00

so we ve got some breaking news. kevin mccarthy loses on the tenth ballot to be speaker. he has now and again, it s not over until it s gavelled in. so far in this tenth count, he has lost six republicans and that is going to keep him from becoming speaker on this tenth ballot. yes. i m going to pick up word that charlie said, anarchy. we ve had anarchists in american history. we ve never really had them in congress before. but i do also pick up on nick s point. the constitution says almost nothing about how the speichers is elected. it says the house will elect the speaker. all of these rules have grown up over 150, 175, 200 years. and the rules themselves are flawed. the glues to me about this, and this is contrarian, this is our testimony working. in 1856, there were 119 ballots. in 1849, it went on for 19 days. these all have precedents in

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:24:00

question, does kevin mccarthy even want this job anymore, and sort of putting aside egos, i think you could expand the question to say, does anybody want this job because whomever it is whether it s mccarthy or these other names, they come into this position hobbled and gait said that straitjacket, and they have a very slim majority that is not just fragile, it s volatile, and there are big stakes, when you talk about funding the u.s. government, when you talk about the debt ceiling, we are talking about economic peril that americans will understand, they will understand the consequences of this congress not being able to function and they will put that back on republicans. they will understand it quickly even if this all just looks like a hot mess. no one s going anywhere, there s so much more to talk about. it s 4:23, we didn t get to what today is, we are that you

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 22:40:00

correctly condemned by everyone, right, left, and everywhere in between. what do you do when the response to political violence, when it reaches the spouse or the family of one of the highest ranking members of the other party is not to condemn it, buff to circulate conspiracy theorys? what is the hope that we re even near the worst? well, i think the hope is that when you are in the majority, if you are responsible forewhat is being done by congress, however adversarial you might be or find politically advantages to go and attack the federal government, it is a very advantageous when you re not the majority, and when and if violence occurs, and sadly, it s only the matter of time before it does, somebody has to step up as the speaker, as the chairman of these various committees and say something. and if they don t, again, it s one thing to kind of throw

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:03:00

raising questions about the future of the republican party or if it should have a future. the new york times says after two days of chaos, republicans have made it clear who s leading their party, absolutely no one. from the halls of congress to the ohio statehouse, to the backroom dealings of the republican national committee. the party is confronting an identity crisis and seen in decades with no unified legislative agenda, no cleared leadership, republicans find themselves mired in intraparty warfare, defined by a fringe element that seems more eager to tear down the house then to rebuild the foundation of a political party that has faced disappointment in the past three national elections. with us at the table my friend alecia menendez and our good friend basil michael director of the public policy program,

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