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MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 12:33:00

herschel or reverend warnock. it is an insult to the intelligence of people. i think if you want to practice your religion, then practice. and the arrogance of saying i m the most like jesus or he s the most like if i was ever talking to people in church, listen, from way back, and there s only one person perfect person in the baptist church who runs the building fund. that s another story. you tell people no, i m a sinner, i m broken, i share your values. what are these people saying i m the most like jesus. god created ron desantis. ron takes care of those people. sends them to martha s vineyard. it s just crazy. i don t know what church

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 12:34:00

these people grew up in. i ve never seen anything like it. i think lauren boebert said something to the effect of and this is not a direct quote, but if jesus had had some kind of bigger weapon an ar-15. an ar-15, he could have protected himself from the government, and of course as a christian i m thinking literally the crucifixion is the entire basis for our faith, so there would be no christianity. the bigger point, right, is, you know, not a debate over doctrine but is the fact that this just shows how absolutely not just insulting and hypocritical, but just un-serious their claims they re professing that they re coming from a place of faith, it could not be more transparent that they are not. there s an opportunity to talk a little bit. david has written a little bit

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 12:24:00

bottoms. first, the senior editor and contributing writer for the atlantic, david flinch is with us. did you see that desantis ad? all things aside, whether you like desantis or not, have you ever heard a candidate having paul harvey type person, i know they did it to own the libs and get the media talking about it. again, i would never throw jesus under the bus, and make people think that like jesus had created me so they could vote for me on tuesday. that was breathtaking. did you see that one? i did see it. and, you know what, on the one hand, it was just laughable. right. on the other hand, it completely played into the way republicans pitch themselves to christian voters, which is you re a people under siege, and you need me. you need a fighter. you need a protector or the church is going down or

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 12:32:00

don jr. mocking jesus s idea that we turn the other cheek. i hear eric trump giving a speech, going jesus defeats these rhinos, i mean, you know, it would be laughable if it weren t so frightening that people are doing this in the name of jesus christ. but they are. and on the other side of laughable, to those of us that really practice our religion, it s insulting. for me to see a minister stand there and say herschel walker is like jesus, more than a baptist preacher who does this every day. herschel walker who has been accused now of all kinds of things i won t even list. a preacher is going to say that s more like jesus than a minister of the gospel. think about what we re seeing here. do you want your kid to be like

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 12:28:00

active, angry fringe that is being stoked and stirred every day. it s a 2,000 year break. from the teaching of jesus, you read tom holland s dominion, and you see what value sets, what set of morality that jesus introduced into the world. whether you re an atheist or whether you re a christian or whatever. like western civilization defined by these sets of values, which these people are actually undermining every day with their hatred, it s breathtaking, and you re right, this is not all churches, it may be a smaller subset, it is a frightening subset, and harming the larger church, i want to, if it s okay. i would love for you to tell the story, the remarkable story that made you weep, where you were talking about the young girl in

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