against donald trump finally begins in court. then, what we know about fan willis s plans amid ne reporting of another grand jur investigative investigatin election crimes. and former chief of staff ro klain on today s reelectio rollout of his former boss - it s time to finish the job. finish the job that s when all in starts right now. good evening from new york, i chris hayes. and i m not going anywhere you know, the election o donald trump issued in an er of politics suspended, particularly when i came to how people tucked in public before the trump era, it fel like there were some boundaries there were things that politicians just could not say things that would beyond the pale, and as we change ove time but there were some shared sense that those existed but of course, the e presidents whole approach, fro the beginning of that campaign was about transgressing thos very boundaries. and, as of yet, facing no real punishment for it that combination o transgression
audience tonight, what we ar learning about what finally di tucker in with brandy zadrozny and ben smith. plus, stunning allegations i the opening arguments as the rape and defamation lawsui against donald trump finally begins in court. then, what we know about fan willis s plans amid ne reporting of another grand jur investigative investigatin election crimes. and former chief of staff ro klain on today s reelectio rollout of his former boss - it s time to finish the job. finish the job that s when all in starts right now. good evening from new york, i chris hayes. and i m not going anywhere you know, the election o donald trump issued in an er of politics suspended, particularly when i came to how people tucked in public before the trump era, it fel like there were some boundaries there were things that politicians just could not say things that would beyond the pale, and as we change ove time but there were some shared sense that those existed but of course, the e
we have the kids home. we have people who come in physically protect us given to us by nbc news it is really scary stuff and lots of people don t hav that and so, part of it is you know, what i report on i the dregs of the internet, the neo-nazis and the grifters who want their stuff featured on tucker carlson tucker carlson is the end of the misinformation and hat pipeline and so, when you are targete by those people, it is reall scary stuff. and we are supposed to b objective, right i m a reporter i m not an analyst i m a reporter but it s hard to have a view from nowhere
people with way, way, way less power right him freelancers who wrot something he did not like. he could bully people behind the scenes he could gleefully run wha appears to be, for multipl reports, a hostile workplace and not face any consequences. he considered himself, proudly to be an cancel-able that was kind of the whole stick. now, sometimes - and i think, actually, often in the age of trump, it is age we are living in - it does feel like people lik that just kind of get away wit it right? i mean, we all have to ask ourselves this question, a profound, one about the world. is there any cosmic justice? karma? or is the universe jus uncaring people can just do horribl things and be fine and one end of the spectrum of answers is just, no, there i no such thing as justice and nothing matters. right? there is no accountability no matter how terribly donal trump behaves, how awful the things tucker carlson says o air, there is no comeuppance
it s not a fact. i would like to think that, if anything, it shows that, whe you have the truth on your sid and you stand up for yourself, people will listen and for now that s what i am taking from it so, yeah. there s no cause of justice. there is no guarantee that people that act awfully will face any come up in s. but, in the aggregate, ove time, being a cruel, misogyn stick, bullying menace might just come back to get you. he s brandy zadrozny a senio reporter for nbc news. she covers misinformation, extremism and the internet she s no stranger to the vitriol tucker carlson - brandy was attacked multiple times by tucker on air, brandy is still working here ben smith is foreign media columnist for the new york times his new book, traffic is out one week from today. they both join me now.