and he goes to work every day, he looks like an artist, he s got a proper studio with a lot of paint on the floor. he s a proper artist. i m not and i don t claim to be. i m not an artist in that sense. i mean, i do work every day. but i can t believe you re telling me you re not a proper artist. i m a different artist. yeah. and what they didn t like about me was that difference. those critics didn t. .. ..couldn t understand why i would be common and vulgar enough to do a record cover. and i guess that. that was their problem. there were critics like brian sewell. oh, brian sewell was a separate case. he was a vicious, nasty man. i mean, i know he s dead, but he was vicious. and he picked on hockney, kitaj and myself to attack. so, if he was reviewing
taken seriously by some of those high minded critics? yeah, i think me particularly, because i think what some of the critics couldn t deal with was that i would do a record cover. and so in a way, it s my fault, and that.they felt i wasn t a pure enough painter, which is true, which is right. what is a pure enough painter? i mean, as you ve said, you had the training. i always use frank auerbach as an example, who s an absolute. he was in the year before me at the royal college and who i would say was a friend. and he goes to work every day, he looks like an artist, he s got a proper studio with a lot of paint on the floor. he s a proper artist. i m not and i don t claim to be. i m not an artist in that sense. i mean, i do work every day.
he was in the year before me at the royal college, and who i would say was a friend. and he goes to work every day, he looks like an artist, he s got a proper studio with a lot of paint on the floor. he s a proper artist. i m not, and i don t claim to be. i m not an artist in that sense. i mean, i do work every day. i can t believe you re telling me you re not a proper artist. i m a different artist. and what they didn t like about me was that difference. those critics didn t, couldn t understand why i would be common and vulgar enough to do a record cover. that was their problem. there were critics like brian sewell. oh, brian sewell was a separate case. he was a vicious, nasty man. i mean, i know he s dead, but he was vicious. and he picked on hockney,
i mean, as you ve said, you had the training. i always used frank auerbach as an example, who s an absolute. he was in the year before me at the royal college, and who i would say was a friend. and he goes to work every day, he looks like an artist, he s got a proper studio with a lot of paint on the floor. he s a proper artist. i m not, and i don t claim to be. i m not an artist in that sense. i mean, i do work every day. i can t believe you re telling me you re not a proper artist. i m a different artist. and what they didn t like about me was that difference. those critics didn t, couldn t understand why i would be common and vulgar enough to do a record cover. that was their problem. there were critics like brian sewell. 0h, brian sewell was a separate case.
but i don t claim to be a journalist. a claim to be a talk show host. there you have it, fox news host sean hannity as he deals with the hollowed from new tech showing he was ready to do just about anything it took to keep the president in office. can hannity himself be a witness. just announced public hearings from the january six committee. also this hour president biden, set to step out today a white house tradition the white house correspondents dinner. we re going have a preview of the event, later on this hour. we want to start the, in ukraine. nbc news has confirmed that some of the civilians trapped in the steel plant have now been evacuated. cal good to talk to once again. take us through this, cal, as we re learning more information about the evacuations that are happening at the steel plant that until now have been under