story, and it seemed to you know, doesn t seem to do the president any good. but the president himself was for it. he encouraged giuliani to go. he s asked for a readout. he has told rudy to brief the department of justice and senate republicans although both of those venues have suggested they re not necessarily willing to hear from him. but it just goes to show that even with the president facing impeachment, he s not shying away from the conspiracy theories and unfounded charges that got him in this mess to begin with. annie karni, you wrote that the president may not debate come general election season because of the problems he has. this is your shared byline with maggie. the problem he has with the commission on debates. what s his problem with the commission on debates? he thinks it s biased. he simply thinks that he doesn t trust who they choose as a moderator. he had troubles with the debate commission in 2016.
corruption investigation trip to ukraine. he had a documentary film crew with him on the trip. interestingly, tonight the new york times reports, quote, last month mr. giuliani told an associate that mr. trump had approved of his participation in the documentary when he briefed the president about it during a meeting at the trump international hotel in washington. you may recall that last month bill o reilly pressed donald trump on rudy s ukraine mission. what was rudy giuliani doing in ukraine on your behalf? well, you have to ask that to rudy, but rudy i don t even know. so you didn t direct him to go to ukraine and do anything or put any heat on them? no, i didn t direct him. but he is he is a warrior. rudy is a warrior. rudy went. he possibly saw something. tonight the wall street journal has new reporting about rudy s mission to ukraine. quote, when he returned to new york last saturday, the president called him as his plane was still taxiing down the
still taxiing down the runway, mr. giuliani said. what did you get, he said mr. trump asked, more than you can imagine, rudy replied. he is putting his findings into a 20-page report. a lot to talk about for our lead-off discussion panel on a friday night. jonathan lemire, white house reporter for the associated press, annie karni, white house reporter with the new york times, and jeremy peters, political reporter also with the new york times. good evening and welcome. jonathan lemire, forgive the apparent cynicism. was this just another week for the white house or did this feel perhaps different? i think we need to keep this in perspective that this is different. this president now becomes only the third ever poised to become the third ever to be impeached. it s one of those moments where we all believe we know the outcome. next week the house controlled by democrats will impeach him. we ll move into early next year and the republicans in the senate will not move to remove
ukraine. he had a documentary film crew with him on the trip. interestingly tonight the new york times reports, quote, last month mr. giuliani told an associate that mr. mr. trump had approved of his participation in the documentary when he briefed the president about it during a meeting at the trump international hotel in washington. you may recall that last month bill o reilly pressed donald trump on rudy s ukraine mission. what was rudy giuliani doing in ukraine on your behalf? well, you have to ask that to rudy, but rudy, i don t even know. you didn t direct him to go to ukraine to do anything or put any heat on them? no, i didn t direct him, but he s he s a warrior. rudy is a warrior. rudy went he possibly saw something. tonight the wall street journal has new reporting about rudy s mission to ukraine. quote, when he returned to new york saturday, the president called him as his plane was
seem to do the president any good. but the president himself was for it. he encouraged giuliani to go. he s asked for a readout. he has told rudy to brief the department of justice and senate republicans, although both of those venues suggested they re not necessarily willing to hear from him. but it goes to show his presence that even with the president facing impeachment, he s not shying away from the conspiracy theories and unfounded charges connected to ukraine that got him in this mess to darwin with. annie karni, you wrote that the president may not debate come general election season because of the problems he has. this is your shared byline with maggie. the problem he has with the commission on debates. what s his problem with the commission on debates? he thinks it s biased. he doesn t trust who they choose at moderator. ehe had troebl with the