of cruz as senator coming over and talking to them, what affect that s had on boehner s ability to lead and how that played out today? it s easy at first blush to shrug off what happened at tortilla coast meeting with house conservatives. but in the way the republican party functions right now in the house, these are critical events because the leadership has very limited ability, no earmarks to really whip votes, so these outside movement groups like heritage action and movement leaders like senator cruz has been really able to corral votes in the house. they have been, as you said in the introduction, whipping votes in the house. that s something we really have never seen in the american house. you know the factions of the republican membership in the house really well. we always hear about there s this really hardcore group of ted cruz republicans in the house and there s secondary layers of that, i guess. if the senate deal the framework or which you re describing goes
he said no, no, no, no for 14 days. he s had months to get ready for october 17th. he has no plan. i m guessing we ll sit down tomorrow in the house and come up with a plan that will be a short term debt ceiling and give us more time to address these issues. but at the end of the day obama care is a massive drain on the economy and going create massive deficits we have to face that as well. what i don t understand it sounds like you re saying the same thing that you were saying a couple of weeks ago, five days ago that you want to extend the debt ceiling but obama care has got to go. we know obama care isn t going to go. at any point you have to vote for or get out voted on a deal that doesn t include getting rid of obama care. that s the reality, right? i don t know if that s the reality. most americans agree with me and house republicans that members of congress shouldn t have special exemptions from obama care. that should be a done deal. on boehner put that in the bill that yo
still is doing really as we speak right now, is there any sense that we won t go through this all over again in january and early february? i think the closer we get to the midterms, there s going to be a reluctance to be another type of showdown. republicans especially in the highways are very interested in the house in having a showdown. let s say it goes into early january of 2014, they want to have a fight on the delay of the individual mandate. obama care is the republican s message ahead of 2014. so don t look for them to relechbt in any way. we talked about the announcement from the jim demint, the announcement from heritage that said this is a key vote, if you re a republican in the house, you better be voting against this thing. can you talk about what affect that had on the most conservative members of the house. it s sort of these outside pressure groups or in the case of cruz as senator coming over and talking to them, what affect that s had on boehner s ability to lead
that s had on boehner s ability to lead and how that played out today? it s easy at first blush to shrug off what happened at tortilla coast meeting with house conservatives. but in the way the republican party functions right now in the house, these are critical events because the leadership has very limited ability, no earmarks to really whip votes, so these outside movement groups like heritage action and movement leaders like senator cruz has been really able to corral votes in the house. they have been, as you said in the introduction, whipping votes in the house. that s something we really have never seen in the american house. you know the factions of the republican membership in the house really well. we always hear about there s this really hardcore group of ted cruz republicans in the house and there s secondary layers of that, i guess. if the senate deal, the framework or which you re
reality. most americans agree with me and house republicans that members of congress shouldn t have special exemptions from obama care. that should be a done deal. on boehner put that in the bill that you said you were going to vote no too. got rid of those exemptions is our reporting. there are many parts as well. this idea that harry reid and the president liked to talk about obama care as the law of the land they provide exemption after exemption and so we agree obama care has to be changed. the question is the president willing to treat the rest of americans as he s trying to treat big businesses. it s a fairness issue and we ve been discussing that for two weeks. we looked forward to harry reid having a vote on that issue putting his red states democrats on the line. i m trying to understand why you vote against the bill the speaker had on the table because obviously that no vote and this getting shot down tonight could be hugely significant. that fairness issue on the table