saying to the president of ukraine, i ll have my guys, rudy giuliani and bill barr, deal with this. he said that never happened but i m sure they ll want to investigate. this is a really important point. we saw that transcript. we saw the president of the united states hold iing out bil barr as a lackey for him. those are the president s own words in the transcript he himself released. it s astonishing to not see the attorney general anything to push back on that representation. in an ordinary administration with an attorney general with an ounce of personal integrity, we would see him offering his resignation. i m sorry that the president had this perception of me and is holding me out in this role to foreign government. obviously i cannot continue to serve in an administration for a president who views me as his personal attack dog. and not recused himself on any of this. no whistleblower should have
sex when she was 14 years old as part of his sex trafficking ring. the co-conspirators alleged in the lawsuit include ghislaine maxwell, mr. epstein s long-time confident and jane does one through three who are three unnamed household staffers referred to in the lawsuit as the recruiter, the secretary, and the maid. additional civil suits against jeffrey epstein s estate are likely. despite his death, the criminal investigation into his alleged co-conspirators is ongoing. that criminal investigation by the southern district of new york is overseen by the justice department and attorney general william barr. our next guest, former u.s. attorney joyce vance has called on barr to recuse himself with regard to the epstein investigation. joyce vance is also an msnbc legal analyst. she joins us now. joyce, what s the basis on which you are calling for william barr to recuse himself? so i should be clear, ali that i don t make the argument because i believe that barr is
maxwell, mr. epstein s long-time confident and jane does one through three who are three unnamed household staffers referred to in the lawsuit as the recruiter, the secretary, and the maid. additional civil suits against jeffrey epstein s estate are likely. despite his death, the criminal investigation into his alleged co-conspirators is ongoing. that criminal investigation by the southern district of new york is overseen by the justice department and attorney general william barr. our next guest, former u.s. attorney joyce vance has called on barr to recuse himself with regard to the epstein investigation. joyce vance is also an msnbc legal analyst. she joins us now. joyce, what s the basis on which you are calling for william barr to recuse himself? so i should be clear, ali that i don t make the argument because i believe that barr is actually going to recuse. i think the sad reality here is that he won t, but the reason he should recuse is because he has both conflicts of interes
information. the fbi has released delayed the release of this information. my perspective on john s were supporting, it s disheartening to hear that james comey steals records, leaks them in order to get to special counsel, and the justice of apartment thinks it s no big deal. sean: what about far left christian? i know that s what the signs are and i hope something good happens but if they can get sean: on barr s decision here, i m having too many people tell me that this is way bigger and he s far deeper into this than anybody probably knows at this moment. i do want to ask one question as a follow-up to what tom fitton is said to sarah, we do know also that after he was fired fog and leaking, we do know that he was trying to use or to still funnel information to the
think donald trump and his associates are in that group. so i m sure donald trump may be nervous today, but i m sheer the people who hang out with donald trump are also nervous today. mimi, we re going to squeeze in the a break here quickly, but on barr and his father. you re the attorney general of the united states. let s imagine a situation in which a defendant like this eventually decides he s going to tell everything. for whatever reason may or may not develop, he s going to tell everything, and that story begins when he s a high schoolteacher school teacher at the high school where your father hired him and you re the unrecused attorney general that is supervising the investigation. that would be an unwavable, insurmountable conflict. but recusal is about getting out before the conflict arises, right? no, absolutely. and that is why, i mean, whether he needs to or not because of