that. they might have had a specific time to be on the ground to compete whatever mission that they were going to do and that could have been i mean, there was also talk there was a fire alarm pull in a building and initially we thought hey, that s a good tactic to get everybody out of the building because of the active shooter protocols where everybody shelters in place behind a locked door. if they stayed on the scene, they could have actually shot a lot more people. i think just from the information we know now they probably had a specific time they were going to be in there before they made the escape. we don t know anything. the press conferences so far, police officials have been asked, did they yell anything? people of course are trying to figure out whether this was, let s just be honest, whether there was islamic terrorism to this. they haven t answered this question and there is no indication that is the case at this point. do you think that that is still possible? i
i am here, we ve got former members of the cia, s.w.a.t. team leaders, u.s. marshals, detectives, harry houck, former nypd is with me. within the next 15 minutes we re going to be hearing live from a san bernardino official. we may get an important update as to the whereabouts as to these other suspects but you think fingerprints could have played a big role? i m sure the police have already fingerprinted the body and put those into the system. if they did find i.d. on him, to see if it matches the i.d. on him. if not, if he s been fingerprinted before, we re going to get a good idea on this guy within minutes. that will be a great lead for the police and i m sure they did that quickly. and led them on. bob baer, former cia officer also with me, bob, the question first and foremost in many people s minds today was could this be some sort of international terrorism
sense to you? i agree, harry. the thing that bothers me about the domestic terrorism scenario, either the target, the individual target or location target is symbolic and we don t seem to have that in this scenario. when mcveigh blew up the mura federal building, the day of the attack and time was symbol i can. we don t have a symbolism, either by the individuals that were attacked or at the location unless we can develop a little more and i m sure the people at the joint regional intelligence center manned by all the state, local and federal authorities is as intelligence fusion, so working on these senator ocenar. to me domestic terrorism is not the symbol associated with the targets. when you hear about the pipe bombs being thrown out of the
car, will note pamela brown is being told the current belief is this is either domestic terrorism or criminal, whatever just to make that distinction. when you hear the pipe bombs, what does it lead you to to believe? erin, i think about boston that tsarnaev brothers threw pipe bombs to break contact with the police. this is a fairly common tactic in the middle east when you re being chased you throw a couple bombs out. they go off. the police stop. they back off. you get away. i can only speculate why they threw them. clearly that car by throwing them out the window, they weren t going to save themselves from arrest or anything, so i would imagine they hoped to get the police to back off to either escape or move to the next target. you know, again, and i agree on the symbolism, it s incomprehensible unless there was a group of people we don t know about because i don t know
if ever. and bobby, to that front, do you what is your view here on domestic versus international terrorism? they said earlier at a press conference when they first spoke that they could not rule out terrorism. they later said it didn t have the hallmarks of international terrorism, which obviously is very front and center on every american s mind right now. when you re talking about a motive, what does it look like? well, it looks like a planned and attack so they are looking to see if they said anything to the witnesses, if they targeted a particular individual before they shot the others. i m sure they are looking at any threats against any of the people in that meeting, you know, the department that they were all part of. alberto, are you seeing what we are seeing from the air, the aerial shots that we have up