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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:32:00

yesterday evening, he walked out of the jail and he told me i saw rudy giuliani as he pointed that he was in the slammer with 40 other individuals when the former new york city mayor walked by through the booking process. this is exactly what we expect donald trump to go through himself. we also expect that mugshot to be taken, the sheriff in fulton county is not suggested otherwise at this point. it is really the beginning of donald trump s georgia journey, it least the legal one, just today he brought on a new attorney ousting his previous attorney, drew findling, who had been working for more than a year on building what would amount to his potential defense in the case of an indictment. but today he brought on this new attorney, a dome trump has made it clear that he wants this trial to begin after the 2024 election. but, one of his codefendants, cheeseborough, kenneth chesebro filed a motion today that was approved by the judge to have his trial began on october 23rd, really showi

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:27:00

again, just for those of us who don t cover this type of criminal law on the regular, why is a private business, a bill bondsman involved in this for somebody like a defendant like president trump? sure so there are a couple of ways where you can get out of jail by posting, bond you could pick cash on which means that you could take $200,000 in cash, and give it to the court and they will hold it to ensure that your turn, you could put the property up, right? and then you don t return that property that s gonna be, taken or you can use a bondsman and that bondsman essentially goes and pays the $200,000 and you pay that bondsman a percentage of. it typically, anywhere between ten and 13% of the amount of the bond. and that is for the bounce, meant to put the money up as a security as it were to make sure that you return it to a criminal defendant to court. is there any reason why we should be surprised that mr. trump is using a bondsman rather than somebody s own money?

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:43:00

there were measures taken for extra protection. you could either have a federal facility created for him, you could have a solo scenario where he is alone and therefore not in the general population and the secret service agents to take shifts to be around him, so they become his guards. and you could have confinement. i should mention, officially, as of now, donald trump is under arrest in the state of georgia. we have confirmation that he has entered the jail and, as of right now, former president trump is in custody. he has been arrested. a landmark moment, and, as i said before for all the worst reasons. i just happen to have been with somebody earlier today who actually knows donald trump and we were talking about this very thing, the thing you are talking about about how he might feel. it s a close friend that knows him and said to me that he is a much better actor than people give him credit for. that he actually is good at portraying a kind of bravado

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:55:00

are going around the country and people understand. you have jen ellis and others as rachael reported saying that we are not being funded, which creates the notion of the fissure, and then you have the legal president which i mentioned, which is a large scale rico cases in this county and others usually involve some convictions. so, what we all understand why it is so significant to watch here, the speaker defended donald trump get his booking. the fact that people understand and know that there is, shall we say, a consequence and more on the way i think that it definitely chills or, as a former prosecutor giuliani would say with the rico cases, a deter crime. we do have confirmation, as you see on your screen, that the former president did have a mugshot taken inside the jail. you see the motorcade starting to move here. trump has been taken into custody and then released in fulton county georgia. this is his federal motorcade, the secret service protection, and an inordinate number

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:52:00

those barricades have been up for weeks in front of the courthouse, they have been preparing and trump has been all but calling for civil war and he has not gotten any of. it he is calling for massive protests and massive resistance, and it hasn t happened. but the atmospherics today, it is a relief to see that it has been so calm because it has been so deeply ugly and frightening. i was surprised when he used his social media accounts to re-post a call for protests today. somebody who said they were going to be traveling from out of state to it lanta, to fulton county today, and they gave the actual address, the street address of the jail. trump re-posted that himself, effectively calling on people to turn out and protest from him today in fulton county. which you might expect would have a big effect on his followers, particularly the way that he is attacked fani willis and his prosecutors, and the number of people who are prosecuted alongside him in this case. the turnout was, once

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