secretary is going to head out there. it was ross and navarro who went directly from the president around gary cohn and steve mnuchin to push this idea on the steel and aluminum tariffs. mnuchin this morning is responding to the criticism that there s no details in the statement, there s no specific dollar ats around reducing the deficit. take a listen. you saw in the comment, it said very substantial. how substantial? there s a reason why we didn t put a specific number. i would also say what happened to the 200 specific number, again, whatever we agree to. we have very specific targets, industry by industry. these now have to be executed. well, he said there s a very specific reason why they didn t give the number, and then he didn t give the reason. what s your take? did china come out on top? well, i think there are certainly a lot within the