figures involved in this it seems like it was probable cause or whatever, prima facie evidence. there was something fishy going on with all these meetings. how do you call that criminal to investigate that? katrina s right, i m a former i.g. and i m a former federal prosecutor, so i ve been on both sides of that. so what it appears durham is doing, it appears whatever he s doing should really be done by a combination of the doj i.g., we ve seen his report and then the ici. g. and then if and only if the i.g. s find evidence of a crime, then referrals is made to the relevant u.s. attorney with jurisdiction. jurisdiction is a great word, greg. what is the guy the u.s. attorney up in connecticut got to do with this except he s willing to take orders do do what he s told by the president.
remarkable. so when we look at this situation, we ve got to think about the long-term implications for our country, and for people who are watching. that s why we have to get out of our silos. we have to listen to other people. but at the end of the day, there is truth. and we can t agree on basic facts, you tell me where this country is going for our children. where is it going to go if we can t even agree on basic things? it s amazing to me. well, that is true. listen, i have to say that we saw republicans push false narratives about the bidens and ukraine at the impeachment hearing. make it up. make it up. just making stuff and argue about process rather than substance and about and really just about truth and about facts, right? just pounding the table. plus this doj i.g. report obliterates the deep state theory here. now, listen, the fbi did mess up, right? there were some things that they needed to correct. and we should people should admit to it. yes, and they sh
for our country, and for people who are watching. that s why we have to get out of our silos. we have to listen to other people. but at the end of the day, there is truth. and we can t agree on basic facts, you tell me where this country is going for our children. where is it going to go if we can t even agree on basic things? it s amazing to me. well, that is true. listen, i have to say that we saw republicans push false narrative about the bidens and ukraine at the impeachment hearing. make it up. make it up. just making stuff and argue about process rather than substance and about and really just about truth and about facts, right? just pounding the table. plus this doj i.g. report obliterates the deep-state theory here. now, listen, the fbi did mess up, right? there were some things that they needed to correct. and we should people should admit to it. yes, and they should admit to it. barr and trump are disputing the facts here. what is this war on truth that
round table when it came to this inspector general s report. the president and his allies in the room selecting pieces of this report that they wanted to promote. that they wanted to put out there. and not addressing at all the top line that you have discussed, which is that the authorized purpose was there for the opening of the russia investigation. expect to see a lot of this. we ve already, as reporters who have covered this white house, have been preemptively reprimanded by the white house for not covering this report thoroughly enough. and i imagine that defiant tone is what we re going to continue to see throughout the afternoon. hallie jackson at the white house for us. thank you so much, myou friend. frank. so look, we are officially living in an alternate reality. with what the president has just said, characterizing the ig report. i ve got the entire ig report in my hand. we re we re reading it. i can assure you the president hasn t read it and is lying about it. i ll
better. it would it would serve the cause of justice, rule of law, and the constitution. for congress to come out and go, look, we re troubled by some of the findings r in here. but we re so pleased to hear that the fbi was not motivated politically. we re we re going to do things about this. we re going to have a healthy discussion about fisa. we re going to have a healthy discussion about why you should or should not investigate a campaign in the middle of a campaign. all valid discussions. but instead, we have peopled choosing to toe the russian to line. and we could we ve been involved in many discussions about why that s happening and i think the answer is it s varied. i think there are somend member of congress that are too closely aligned. perhaps, financially with the country of russia. i think others are sucked into ego and power s trips and re-election. but the bottom line is they are not serving this country well. all right. and we just a programming note. we are g