Hive. you say if barr and mueller follow doj restrictions, trump might come out unblemished. how likely after the long investigation the president comes out unscathed? you look at doj guidelines and what they say is, you know, one, you can t indict a sitting president. also, you can t disparage publicly an individual who maybe was part of an investigation, but wasn t ultimately charged. i think one of the questions is right now is what behavior robert mueller looked at of the president s. what he found. whether we will see that, you know, despite the really massive public interest in it. the question is will we be able to see, you know, how mueller reached that conclusion? i think there is a question as to what rises to criminality over what is constitutional.
Plausible explanation would there be for why they wouldly. it s not illegal to try to build a condo in moss skou? exactly. but here we are, i haven t been on your show in seven months and we re in exactly the same place. we re still not there yet. here is why. okay. according to giuliani mueller is saying i m not going to indict the president, but why? why wouldn t you indict the president. that s according to giuliani. the part you said according to giuliani, we don t know if that s true. maybe not. why not yet? why isn t this happening? nothing in the constitution prevents a president from being indicted. everybody is talking about these doj guidelines. the guidelines from the nixon period and then reaffirmed during clinton. but those guidelines were specific to those presidents actions during their presidency. now trump is allegedly having
I think mueller knowknows, beca there are russians talking about other data that they had so the u.s. government knows about this. we ll get answers. maybe we ll get answers in some of the court filings, the continued cases against some of the russians, they re trying to bring some of them here for trial, there is still michael fli flynn to come up. the president was asked today, bob mueller finishes a report, should the public see it? if robert mueller finishes his report, should that be made public? we ll have to see. there is no collusion whatsoever. we ll have to see is a trademark. probably, no, thank you very much, in trump translation. some of this can t be made public because of doj guidelines, so that could save him. the other thing right now, the member of congress, the dems,
Never said this is a violation of the federal election laws. how can you be intentionally breaking a law when it s been the record of the fec that this is not a violation of the law? you can t have the intent if the fec doesn t consider it a violation? intent is a defense. it does not have anything to do with what you are using now as the fec defense. the president can offer a defense and no doubt will, if he s indicted, and he will say he did not know the law. we have seen that a little bit. you have to knowingly and willfully violate the law, but to be clear that doesn t mean you have to be able to recite the code. john, you are missing my point. hang on. hang on. i have read the doj guidelines, senator. you have to have a general knowledge of the law. i don t know if the president had that, i don t. i have a suspicion ami knew the law. why do i have that suspicion?
Secrets in one person s hands. this happens to be a media organization where they saw an opening to maybe change that. so, jim, let me ask you this. all this dirt that we now have reference to and that cohen made reference to on the tape, does the southern district of new york have all this or does mueller have it or do they have access to it? that we do not know. and here s the most important thing here in terms of the legal case. this case these cases, these campaign finance cases are not about the person helping the candidate in this case, according to michael cohen, break the law. it s about the campaign and the candidate. so does the sdny want to keep going down the road of figuring out who else knew. now, the president can t be indicted, according to doj guidelines, but there are other people around him who perhaps can. then does whatever ami has establish more of a pattern, get them at those other people.