contemporaries, the people around you who weren t doing as well. letting each other sleep on each other s floor. debbie: there was nothing at stake. anthony: there was nothing at stake. i just think a lot of people had low expectations, you didn t, you had a plan, right? chris: well, no, if we had a plan we would ve made more money, and not got so completely [ bleep ] over by the industry, as it were. debbie: we had a plan to survive. chris: yeah, ongoing. debbie: we had a plan to keep going, doggedly. but i think the thing that was so attractive about that period was you weren t locked in to one format, or one form, you know. it was just, everybody was doing everything. anthony: you introduced the entirely revolutionary notion that street art was in fact really art. freddy: the painting that we did on the street was coming from a place that pop-art came from as well.
control of how you understand january 6th. but they re not in control anymore. so it s fair to ask basic questions. for example, why did news outlets tell us that the officer was beaten to death with a fire extinction or? that s a lie. where did that lie come from? julie kelly is one of the very few people who would know. senior writer at american greatness, she has reported accurately and doggedly on the events of january 6th since that day. an amazing conversation with her for an episode of tucker carlson today. here s part of it. tucker: your reporting on this has no peer. so give us the story. so what happened was the next day, on january 7th, late that evening, the u.s. capitol police issued a statement that brian sick nick has died in the line of duty, killed in a line of duty by trump protesters. if that was official release. tucker: the first release. that was the first release, that he had died that evening.
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conversation between the two of you about the direction of it? well, you know, we don t really talk about strategy. i mean the most of the time that we re together which is few days this time. but we talk about family. you know, we talk about what every other husband and wife talk about when they get together. and it s just like well, joe, what do you think you re going to do in iowa? no, it s like how are the kids doing? how are the grabbndkids? what have you purchased for christmas already, that kind of stuff. how different is this campaign from ones you ve been on in the past? my colleague who is covering your husband s campaign says you re out there more than you have been in the past. you re approaching this doggedly. what is different this time around? ? you see the campaign in your role in it. i think what is different is that joe is running for president. and so all the spotlight is on joe. so he takes, you know, he ll go one way and i ll go another way. i mean, i haven t
got a checkup and we caught a tumor in time. or you see somebody and say, you know, you helped me save my house, and i can t tell you what that means. it s pretty hard to get greater satisfaction than that. people often ask me what was the most important story i covered on the past two decades. we ve lived through incredible moments of course from the florida recount to the horrors of september 11th to the historic election of barack obama. but one event stands out as the single most disastrous policy in american history. it was something so epicably stupid it makes everything pale in comparison, and we covered it aggressively, politically and d doggedly and that s coming up next. chris, i want to congratulate you on 20 years of hardball and being helpful to me in the