they have permits to do it. travis testified he had a concealed permit at this point. the law allows this behavior. travel comes out to the street. he looks down the street right across. here he is at 2:30. he comes out here. mr. arbery has already run past. he comes out here, look downs the street from where the house is and sees mr. matt albenze, who is walking towards him and, eventually, after a couple houses, goes like this, and points down the street. it is reasonable to conclude that based on what his dad said, who just came running in the house, the guy is back who s broken in, to come outside and look and see, see mr. albenze, who he knows and he s talked with, who he shared thoughts and feelings about the person breaking in the house, is now saying go that way, the guy is back, to get in his car and go.
with his truck. he watches him, watching. so he pulls up next to him, and he stops again. he says hey, hey, hold on a second. just want to talk to you for a minute. something is going on back there. we want to know what s going on. he s not saying to the guy i don t know what s been going on in this neighborhood. to do that would do what, it would escalate the situation? so he just says we want to know what s going on back there. why is that guy pointing at you? why is he doing that? mr. arbery stops, he looks him dead in the eyes, doesn t say a word and travis just says we want you to stay right here we re calling the cops, calling the cops. . he called the cops. and mr. arbery bolts. now on the subject of police, travis told you. got in the car with my dad. i said, dad, are the cops coming? yeah, yeah, yeah. go this way. go this way. it s very clear. he said he asked his father about the cops being called. they call the cops all the time.
at the same time the crime is committed. there s no lou that says that. there s no time limit imposed. police would never be able to arrest anybody, and a citizen is in the same shoes as an officer when it comes to citizen s arrest. so, travis leaving his house decides he s going to follow. that s what he does. he pulls out after his dad crammed into the front seat with the kid seat there and he follows, and he watches, and he pulls up next to this gentleman. no gun is raised. no violence has ensued. he doesn t get out of car, doesn t tackle him. doesn t do anything, he does what a reasonably prudent person would do, he uses leaps and says, hey, man, what s going on? can i stop for a second. want to talk to you for a second. there s no violence. if travis wanted violence
that i m watching him he s being very aggressive against this truck. he s watching it from 200 feet away, but he s thinking this guy is really being aggressive. this is something something off with this guy. his dad says travis, go. dad gets out of the car, climbs in the back of the truck with his rebuilt hip and medical issues. travis watches him gets n.looks down the street, sees this, puts the gun up on the floorboard and puts it on the front seat go, go, get down the street. travis says no. i m not going back that way. something is off with this guy. i m not going into that. well, if he wanted to go commit a aggravated assault and wanted to go do a false imprisonment, if he wanted to end the life of somebody whether it s murder or felony murder, there s another
chance, but he doesn t. he just watches, and then he says i m going to drive around. judge is going to courage on hijacking a motor vehicle, personally commits the crime of hijacking a motor vehicle in the second-degree when someone obtains a vehicle with without someone s his or her concept. travis is watching that guy get in that car in an aggressive way and doesn t think that looks good. whether he thinks it s a hijacking or not, it doesn t look good, it looks dangerous. travis also told you that when he came face to face with mr. arbery, even though he didn t speak, he looked very angry, he looked very upset, clenching his teeth but not saying a word. these are the notes i took about it right in front of you guys. just wrote it down as he was talking.