this movement should be accommodated. and my point is that there s no place for this movement in american politics and i think that is why the president has lacked clarity in some of his statements. now, again, he s responsible but we all know that the modern american president doesn t sit down and draft his statements, doesn t draft his own speeches. these aides are very influential and i think the president needs to start listening to the highly competent and professionals instead of those who believe in accommodating people hell-bent on dividing this country on excluding american citizens from the american experience. and to your point, there s a lot of people who could have influence over a president but at a moment like this, you know,
in multilateral discussions about security and trade issues in the region. but i think, again, elise is right. we need to take a very sort of firm stance here. so even if the north korean foreign minister, elise, doesn t sit down and meet with tillerson or any other u.s. official, the north korean foreign minister could meet with a lot of people over there and make his points. he could, but what secretary tillerson is headed there to do is to make this point, we don t want you talking to north korea. we want to diplomatically isolate them. the question is, do they care? you know, you ve seen kind of widespread international condemnation of north korea at the u.n., at other places. i think the only thing that really they care about is some kind of agreement with the united states, and they haven t even shown they re ready to talk, so i m not really sure that that kind of talk makes a difference. the russians are going to be there, sergey lavrov, the foreign minister of russia will
instead, a refugee crisis, growing instability across the globe. and a disparity between the rich and the poor. and what you are seeing right now is just moments before the two men, the pope and the president, will be making those remarks. this is the army fife and drum corps playing music troop and review. after they finish the president will go to the podium. i believe the president will speak first. the pope will be making his remarks in english, we are told. this is an incredible moment in history. and on a beautiful, beautiful morning in washington at the white house. i hope the pope doesn t sit down. he looks pretty tired, greg. the pope does look tired. it reminds me of the visit where ronald reagan, i think back in 1982, fell asleep while visiting the vatican and people worried
with terrorists, then why are we sitting down for peace talks [laughter] jenna, you are so right. this is exactly what we re doing. why are we doing it? because we re on our way out. there s nothing to say jenna: then let s take the kid with us. we could fight our way out, that s the other question, are we sitting down with the taliban because we want to make sure we don t shoot our way out? jenna: what is the goal? we ve talked about this for years, potentially talking to known terrorists. what is the goal now? i don t think there is a very good goal here. i m not sure we get anything out of this negotiation at all. the taliban may get something out of it, they probably want us to leaf behind leave behind a lot of infrastructure. karzai is the interesting one because he s not going to be part of the talks, he s going to be part of the talks, he s playing this. he s deciding if he s going to sit down with the taliban and the united states. he wants something from the united
it s bizarre. and it doesn t it s not the sort of thing that crops up in a vacuum. leon panetta doesn t sit down and just sort of write this off the toch his head because he feels like doing it. megyn: that s it, memo it s a memo for the record. why do people draft memos for the record? megyn: generally in litigation it s to cover yourself. thank you. megyn: well, why would he do it, though? generally you look at this and you think okay, what if the bin laden raid had gone south, could the president really defend himself by saying look at the memo! i called leon panetta and said have the admireical call back if the risk assessment changes. no one would have accepted that. i have no idea, and whether it speaks some reluctance to do this, that has more to it than that memo, i don t know. i know that jack keene retired vice chairman of the army has said that he has