and the house will vote next week and the question is do we get a real trial in the senate that if republican senators want to say we don t think there is anything there to convict. he did some things wrong but doesn t rise to the removal from the office level, fine. but if they take the attitude that we don t need to have a trial. it is obviously there is nothing there and that is ridiculous substantively and inappropriate constitutionally. so for me the burden is on the republican senators to not let mitch mcconnell just handle this like some tax bill or appropriations bill and whip his senators and dispose of it. to that point. let s look ahead at the senate trial acoupling t assuming t democrats have the votes in the house. we know that mitch mcconnell is working very closely with the white house. he is in lock step with counsel for the president. so is this something that is operating as it should be,
republicans are doing that and in his view they re not even taking it seriously. what do you think? do you agree? well that is the right thing to do. is to say this behavior is bad doesn t rise to the point of impeachment but they have thus far declined to make a substantive argument. it has been all process and the idea of calling the whistle-blower, i don t get it because it is a moot point and if you shoot the messenger, the messenger is trump because he gave the transcript out. and whether this arises to removable and the democrats have a long way to go to convince swing state voters that is the case and the republican party thinks giving any ground on this will not get them anything and by the way,er that not being hurt in polling. the numbers are moving away for impeachment for democrats despite not addressing the substance because independent voters are like this is a bridge too far. a couple of things. number one, during clinton, the outside pressure on the members was part
and keep it fairly straightforward. it was not a hard thing to say i don t approve of the behavior but this doesn t rise to the level of impeachment. in this case we re talking about national security, we re talking about elections so it is a totally different set of circumstances. however, if you look at the way impeachment is playing out in races, not the national picture, it is a little bit different and just because i may not think the president should be impeached doesn t mean i think he should be president again or will vote for him or doesn t mean i won t vote for you democratic house member even though you re in a tough district. and there is one calculation for republicans worth noting. yes, you could look at polling now and say they don t have incentive and 90% of republicans oppose impeachment and removal and 90% approve of trump s performance but a student of power is a student of weakness. if every republican in both chambers cast a vote saying they seeing no wrong ore n
we haven t seen any sort of records on. i believe that the president wants his case to be heard. i think it will further undermine what i think is a very weak case, one that certainly doesn t rise to the senate convening as a jury and considering removal of the president of the united states. bill: which means the vote fails, is that what you re saying? that s right. heather: let s move to the i.g. report. that the other big thing happening. i.g. horowitz will be testifying tomorrow. what do you want to hear from him? we re going through the report. my colleagues on the other side of the aisle have dismissed it. there are several things. you heard the attorney general talk about things where it looks like they were less than stellar in the way they went about getting warrants and conducting the investigation. you have to think about this, too. this is about a two-year investigation. tens of millions of dollars being spent. you would have expected this investigation to be an a p
bush on the strength of the war in iraq which i imposed. they had impeached bill clinton for personal indiscretion and misrepresenting about it. impeached him. some of these same people are saying oh, this doesn t rise to impeachment. or that right there impeaching bill clinton for being stupid in terms of something like that. did you talk about the democratic caucus and their thinking on, you know, because the speaker is reluctant, she wasn t god goading her caucus, she was trying to stop them from impeaching donald trump if possible. the fact that she is now there, she believes that the president has put our country the national security danger, is that make her more credible to the caucus with her leading it. to the extent that she s been working with moderates and freshman democrats who won