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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20190828 11:11:00

about this as a motivating factor in the electorate. the desire for normalcy is not necessarily a desire to return to the past. it s a desire, perhaps, for someone who is thoughtful, who is reasonable, who has a set of policies that they re pursuing, who s governing in the interest of the country, who s statesman like, so the desire for normalcy is a desire for a politician, a leader that will stabilize the country, that will lead the country because i still think, joe, underneath our politics is the desire for change. we can t lose sight that trump is a reflection, is a reflection of deep dissatisfaction at the kitchen table across the country, of the precarty of workers across the country, of the feeling that america is in decline. trump was bubbled up, i like to say, vomited up, emerged as a result for change.

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20190828 10:08:00

success and excitement around the obama administration, which he is associated with, then the numbers make sense, and then you juxtapose that with the fact that many don t know the other folks as national figures. the numbers make sense. we re still in spring training. we may be getting ready for the opening season but it s still the beginning. i think also when we look at the sand skpe sanders and warren numbers, what we re seeing there is the split that s in the party. even though there s a desire to beat trump, there s an ideological battle happening in the democratic party, and it s playing itself out in the election, even as people know they have to end up getting trump out of office. and so the desire to return to normalcy stands alongside of a judgment that what s normal didn t work. and so those two things are running into each other

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20190828 10:05:00

biden. it s not obviously reflected in the press coverage but it s there in the polls. i think there are a lot of democratic voters out there who are just traditional democrats and to them, biden represents sort of the bread and butter of the party, obviously a continuation of the obama years which people in the democratic party look back incredibly fondly with nostalgia. it s not surprising that he maintains this lead. i will offer this one caveat, which is a fairly standard caveat here, national polls are not that important at this juncture. a lot can happen between now and iowa, and especially if biden were to slip in iowa in that first important caucus state. if that happens, it prompts a lot of people to rethink the race. a lot of them look at biden and say he could actually beat trump. if he loses a caucus, they have to have a recalibration.

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20190828 11:09:00

greatly. so, you know, i wouldn t count out bernie. he ll still make a splash. but what strikes me about all of these polls, honestly, is just how boring this primary has been. you know, we re basically the at same numbers time and time again with biden in those low 30s, bernie and elizabeth warren kind of splitting teens, and then we have a few other people who are running at the top five rounding out the top five, and everyone else is marginal, and this has been the case for weeks and months and we re kind of trying to talk about it a little bit more and more, but what will happen is as we get closer to iowa, this thing will change in some direction, and when people actually vote, that s when things get really interesting. well, and it s really interesting, eddie, seeing how voters react to gaffes in the age of trump. dana mi dana milbank had quite an article, a litany of gaffes for

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20190828 10:44:00

was great was when black people were enslaved. that is certainly racist language, and we haven t seen a statement from alabama republicans pushing back on that. in fact, we have seen them supporting him, and it s very possible that they could support him again in next year s senate election. and rick tyler, here we go with the republican party again, i mean, here in the state of alabama, a state i know well and love, but you go around the country and you see the trump effect on one republican party after another, and it is truly distress distressing all in support of a president who says he s going to seize private lands and told his aides to do it illegally, and from a president who s ordering private companies to move out of other countries, a guy who s running at the biggest debt ever, some of the biggest deficits ever, and this is a guy that trump republicans are following over the cliff

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