city soucouncillers have requira mandate for the head of every household to have a firearm. i think that if someone kicks in your back door you better have more than 911 to protect your family. you wouldn t agree with mandating this? if you don t want to have a gun, i don t want you to have a gun. doesn t want to go practice with it and thinks it is an object to have at the table and kill somebody. we have started well. we can go down hill from here though. let s talk about background checks. he talked to vice president biden. do you support unneiversal
gun by the laws that are not in place right now. they don t obey the law. it doesn t mean you shouldn t tray and make it as difficult as possible for crim malesmales. i want there to be laws that go after the people that commit the crimes with the guns and go after the people that run those guns. that is the core problem that we have here. look at the numbers. 1% got denied. people are shocked by that. law-abiding citizens are the ones that want a background check. the last thing you want to do is go get a gun.
now to a cnn exclusive, inside the illegal gun trade. poppy harlow had a rare opportunity to sit down with two men on both sides. one involved in illegal gun trafficking for years who became an confidential informant. the other, an atf informant who talks about how easy it is to get a gun. the senate judiciary committee is scheduled to vote on a revived version of the stop illegal trafficking of firearms and there is some hope there would be action. you have met two people, one on the trafficking side, now an informa informant, the other from the atf. tell me first about the informa informant. we wanted to hear first hand from someone who has been a middleman getting these guns from point a to point b, and we ll hear from that man. he stole his first gun at 4 years old from a gas station. he s been doing this for decades.
do you think the penalties out there are tough enough for gun trafficking? no. no? no. what should they be? life. life? yes. that will make people think about if i get caught with this gun, or if i traffic guns, i ll go down for life. do you think that america, the government, is losing its war on guns? trying to get them off the street? yeah, if a criminal wants a gun, there s people there that supply them everywhere. so they can obtain a gun at anytime. what about stronger gun laws? that won t help. it won t help? no. why? because criminals don t care about the gun laws. there are three businesses that will never die. women, drugs, and alcohol. and now there s guns.
the background check. if you re someone who is going to break the law, the last thing you want to do is give your fingerprints to get a gun. i agree with that. i think it s worse than that. i think 80,000 lied on their background check, and barely any of them got prosecuted. that s exactly my point that you re making for me tonight. i agree with you. i agree with more law enforcement. we re reaching some points of consensus. here s the sticking point where i come from on iswhich is the assault weapons ban that was there before. and the fact that at the moment, politicians are telling me there s no chance of getting it through again. it s not going to happen. that s my point. why are you so keen to maintain the availability of what many see as military-style assault weapons? because for civilian population. i don t see them as a military style. i see that as someone who doesn t know a gun and fearmongering. i know what a bad guy looks like with a gun, and it doesn t ma