dig up dirt on one of his political rivals, joe biden and his son hunter. multiple news outlets tonight are reporting that in july president trump himself pressured the new ukrainian president eight times by the count of the wall street journal to help giuliani in his efforts to get the dirt. according to the wall street journal andriy yermak with a top aide to mr. zelensky and assured him the ukrainian government would get to the bottom of the biden matter. and it was the state department that helped connect him to that top aide. giuliani defended his actions back in may to new york reporter ken vogel saying there s nothing illegal about it. but admitting somebody could say it s improper. i m joined by ken vogel, evelyn farkas. ken, give us a sense of your sense of rudy giuliani s last chapter perhaps of his public life here.
what s his role? it seems to be oppo, get me the dirt on the guy i may have to run against, joe biden? it seems to me the number one job for the number one guy? yes, his explanation is he s acting in capacity as president trump s personal lawyer, and he says that he started looking at ukraine because he was looking for exculpatory information about the origins of the mueller probe. believing somehow it got its start because of a ukrainian investigation of paul manafort, donald trump s campaign chairman for a time. and that that s why rudy giuliani started looking at ukraine. in the course of looking at ukraine and pushing the ukrainians to investigate that, he says he stumbled upon this potential investigation or this matter involving joe biden, and joe biden s diplomacy in ukraine
couldn t have been better, and keep asking questions and build it up as big as possible so you can have a bigger downfall. well, separately the wall street journal reports that in that phone call president trump, quote, repeatedly pressured the president of ukraine urging that president about eight times to work with rudy giuliani, trump s personal lawyer, on a probe, according to people familiar with the matter. we already know that since may giuliani has been working outside official channels to push the ukrainian government to investigate biden s family. in fact giuliani confirmed it himself just last night. in a bizarre performance on cnn giuliani first denied he asked ukraine to investigate biden only to admit it just seconds later. watch this. did you ask ukraine to investigate joe biden? no, actually, i didn t so you did ask ukraine to look into joe biden. of course i did. you just said you didn t. you just figure that one out.
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