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Transcripts for MSNBC Meet the Press 20220110 09:27:00

i ll give you kind of the most recent. there s a lot of stuff that led up. but the most recent is january 7th. i ll tell you within my republican caucus there was a lot of discussion. something happened two weeks later, which was kevin mccarthy went to mar-a-lago. it caught everybody off guard. everybody was shocked. in the picture he had with donald trump kevin told us something like, oh, i happened to be in florida and he wanted to meet so i was going to meet with him. no, that was an intentional meeting. that took the paddles you see on the tv show and resurrected donald trump back to life. i think when history looks back, it will be kevin s meeting with donald trump, which actually made him an immediate of a force as he was. he may have come back, but i think that was a very important meeting. did donald trump reveal what the republican party is or change it? you know, i think it s actually a little of both. i think on the one hand donald trump is a symptom of years and

Transcripts for MSNBC Meet the Press 20220110 09:42:00

media, even at twitter and facebook, if we pretend he s not there, if we don t quote his stuff, it doesn t grow. it turns out that is the wrong calculus. what do you do now? i think you have to do what the president has done. what they ve pivoted and started to do right now, and i think it s important, one, you do have to fire up the base. we ve talked about this before. part of president biden s problems with his job polling numbers have been, quite frankly, they ve dropped among democrats. not enough democrats see him as someone who is fighting, a strong leader taking on the issues. i thought his speech the other day was a very important speech. he will stand on that bridge, not allow someone to hold a dagger to the neck of democracy. that is firing-up-base sort of language and laying out for americans, quite frankly, what are the articles. you can either choose democracy or choose authoritarianism, and i think it will play out more heading into the midterms.

Transcripts for MSNBC Meet the Press 20220110 09:28:00

years of leaders, profit-driven radio shows, whatever, turning the base into this angry, fearful, victimized group of people saying, look, you can never get a fair shot. as time goes by, you re going to lose more and more political power. keep in mind republicans still won just about half of every race. but then donald trump came along and unintentionally because he wanted to be that guy, unintentionally got in the wave where people wanted somebody to blow stuff up. i think it s a little of both, it s fed off each other. the problem is leaders have to interdict this fear and anger cycle and they re not doing it. they re instead hiding. you re one of the few republicans that wants to fight within the republican party to change it. i want to play a video you put out earlier this week and ask you about it on the other side.

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