so that s the good news. and it s unknown how or when a senate would confirm a new appointee. but chris, again, you know, the principal agencies of national security are in disarray. and it looks as if we don t know what we are doing. certainly that s the way our allies take it. and the president appears to be incompetent in office. general barry mccaffrey, thank you for joining me on short notice tonight. to break down absolutely insane news, i m joined by ezra klein and michelle goldberg. here s how i feel. i feel like we re playing russian roulette with an enormous revolver, one bullet and a thousand slots. every day we keep spinning and spinning. every day it doesn t go off people then think
one other thing, i think it s important to note that law enforcement has gotten very good at examining these types of devices. and the key here is the device that was being sent to the bronx. they re hoping it doesn t go off so that way they can try to examine it. every piece of this device is a clue. they hope they might be able to get fingerprints, even the mail label, they can try to identify what kind of printer printed this mail label. all of these things are clues and all of the law enforcement officials and the fbi are going to be digging into this in the hours to come, jake. keep us updated. i want to go back to new york city to jim sciuto and poppy harlow who were anchoring this morning when word got out that there was a suspicious package at the time-warner center, and they had to be evacuated along with everyone elsal #.
democratic, eric holder, the former attorney general under president obama, same pattern, this fake return address from debbie wasserman schultz, that democratic congresswoman, it doesn t sound like this actually interacted with eric holder or his office at all? reporter: no, and as we have been covering this, we have bee device that was addressed to the former attorney general, but it was the wrong address so it was actually returned to sender, as we have been reporting that return address listed as the former chairwoman of the dnc. investigators i m told once they saw the return address, they knew obviously this wasn t the perpetrator, but it became part of this investigation, and then when they started connecting the dots between these particular devices, now a law enforcement person saying the devices
the fact they were never really in danger, kind of doesn t matter. the fact they didn t go off, the person would go through this much effort, does it make you believe the goal was not merely to scare but just to scare and not to harm. yes, until you get to the point of they were functional devices. they actually had gun powder in them. why not just do dummy devices? all the white powder attacks. they weren t actually anthrax but they were meant to instill fear. why go through making a functional device that doesn t go off where it gets to targets but because of what the targets are isn t cause injuries. there s a lot of missing information here. i hope they make a fast arrest.
traffic cameras at individuals houses, trying to find a common link. how do they think this could have happened? they say you can set this up so it doesn t go off until someone trips it. these people know what they re doing. and now we need to find out who has the capability of making, setting up this bomb and tripping this device. the fbi wants to speak to the bomber. what are the chances the bomber would get in touch with the fbi? it s hard to say. they could do that but everything has been pretty quiet. it was ten days before the