And her woman of courage award stemmed from her anticorruption efforts in ukraine . Yes. That is true. Was it ever determined who threw the acid and killed her . There have been investigations, but while some of the lowerranking individuals that were involved in this have been arrested, those who ordered this have not yet been apprehended. After you stepped away from this anticorruption event to take this call, what did the director general tell you . She said that there was great concern on the seventh floor of the State Department. Thats where the leadership of the State Department sits. There was great concern. They were worried. She just wanted to give me a heads up about this and things seemed to be going on. So she wanted to give me a heads up. Hard to know how to react to Something Like that, i asked her what was it about, what did she
think it was about. She didnt know. She said that she was going to try and find out more, but she wanted to give me a heads up. In fact, i think
fashion that doesn t act and hold itself to the same standard. this has always been going back to the first speech he famously gave during the iraq war, america asks of others to act in ways it does not ask of itself. even though i could say, look, the united states does prosecute its soldiers for committing war crimes, as you noted, president trump pardoned a number of them. and you say that really had an effect. well, it would also be probably because suicide for a u.s. politician to say, we will cooperate. we will hand over u.s. service people to the icc. it s almost impossible to imagine, right? and that s what you re asking when you sign up to the icc. and it comes back, again, to the ways putin plays off this idea of america s constant exceptionalism for itself. i m not saying this is true. but what american is saying, only american courts can act on american service people but we want putin to be held to
did to ukrainians in bucha. translator: civilians were crushed by tanks while sitting in their cars in the middle of the road. just for their pleasure. they cut off limbs, slashed their throats, women raped and killed in front of their children. their tongues were pulled out only because the aggressor did not hear what they wanted to hear from them. the former australian prime minister kevin rudd, now he s the president of asia society policy institute and author of the book the avoidable war: the dangers of a catastrophic conflict between the u.s. and xi jinping s china. right here on my desk. thank you. i can t wait to get into it. thank you. i really appreciate you joining us here. good to be with you. let s talk about you just heard what president zelenskyy said about going he went into graphic detail about what russia is doing to innocent ukrainians. he told the u.n. security council, and i quote here, to dissolve itself if it doesn t act immediately to punish putin.
lifetime. that isn t imaginable in our lifetime, and it is ok to say, let s gather lifetime, and it is ok to say, let s gather evidence for a war criminal tribunal. gather evidence for a war criminal tribunal, but is putin ever going to id tribunal, but is putin ever going to go to tribunal, but is putin ever going to go to a tribunal, but is putin ever going to go to a war tribunal, but is putin ever going to go to a war crimes tribunal? that is the worry. go to a war crimes tribunal? that is the worry. and go to a war crimes tribunal? that is the worry, and tribunal go to a war crimes tribunal? that is the worry, and tribunal in go to a war crimes tribunal? that is the worry, and tribunal in the - the worry, and tribunal in the future doesn t prevent the crime now and arguably it doesn t act does much of a deterrent, even though clearly people hope it would. i m sorry we haven t got longer, john and annabel, but we will have more at 11:30pm. lots more coming up, inclu
formal member of nato but often doesn t act like an ally. they bought a massive air defense system from the russians, things like that. but russia and turkey have been at loggerheads in syria. they have different goals there and i think it put the relationship on a downward spiral. turkey is worried about this and they ve essentially made it very difficult for russian war ships to access the black sea. i think it goes back to your conversation before. we had real difficulties is turkey as with others. the answer is quite possibly we may have to overlook aspects of the erdogan regime that we have diss taste for, including the fact he jails more journalists than any other country, but right now we may need to figure out a common cause because, as michael said, the drones among other things are making a real question. it also raises the question, why aren t we and the israelis providing drones as well. this ought to be the sort of