desantis will make his campaign official later next week. we anticipate pence will do so soon. new hampshire governor chris sununu is signaling he is probably getting in, too. the field is growing. they have to figure outa way to take on trump. the bigger the field, the better for trump. he s not going anywhere. it has to be a strong candidate with really deep convictions and no fear. of the group you mentioned, including nikki haley, i d put my money on sununu, of any of them. but we ll see. doris kearns goodwin, thank you very much. by the way, you can check out the new three-night mini series produced by doris on fdr. it airs on the history channel starting on memorial day, monday, may 29th, at 8:00 p.m. eastern. thank you very much for being on this morning. still ahead on morning joe, as doris mentioned, the state of florida has become a
corner on some issues with disney in florida that undermine the whole argument. you know, he wants to maybe separate himself from trump, which we ll talk about. at the same time, don t separate yourself even worse. this is a politically, such a rookie move, to do this gesture politics, to try to own the libs and maybe get in a smallubsect of the tampa area. in the end, you cost them jobs. floridians may have different views across the state, but i think they re unanimous in wanting jobs in the state. a total rookie move on the part of this governor who can t see beyond one foot in front of his face. i m going to do this. i m going to do that. i ll get them this way, get them that way. then, in the end, loses much bigger, politically but also for his state. malpractice. if you re the governor of the state of florida and you are
around january 6th, of course, namely from former president trump. republican presidential candidate nikki haley pushing back a bit against donald trump s characterization of the january 6th insurrection. in iowa yesterday, the former u.n. ambassador broke with her former boss, who last week called the attack of january 6th a, quote, beautiful day. said that if he is re-elected, he will pardon most of those convicted for attacking the capitol. they thought the election was rigged, and they were there proud. they were there with love in their heart. that was an unbelievable and a beautiful day. i am inclined to pardon many of them. i can t say for every single one because a couple of them probably, they got out of control. i would say, it would be a large portion of them. you know, they did a very [ applause ] and it ll be very early on. it was not a beautiful day. it was a terrible day.
really a good thing to ban books and to attack the biggest taxpayer, the biggest business in florida. matt lewis, obviously, there s some virtue signaling to a certain portion of ron desantis voters who support the base, but in the big picture, this remains confounding, this decision to go on and fight with the largest private employer in your state. this icon that has transformed the state of florida. brings all the tourism and money that comes with it. to pick this fight because his feelings were hurt that disney criticized a piece of legislation he put forth last year. is there any explanation for it at this point, other than to just sort of nod to a certain percentage of voters he thinks he needs to keep close? yeah, i mean, i think that was initially, right, ron desantis wanted to position himself as someone who was like trump except more competent. more competent in not only
driving jobs out of the state because you have sort of petty anger politics? i don t know. i don t know how that plays on the big stage. i think it gives trump a lot of material. meanwhile, though, on a private call with top donors and supporters ahead of his expected entry into the presidential race next week, ron desantis argued he is the most electable republican. a new york times reporter listened to the call yesterday organized by a super pac supporting desantis. the reporter quoted desantis as saying, you have basically three people at this point that are credible in this whole thing: biden, trump and me. and i think of those three, two have a chance to get elected president, biden and me, based on all the data in the swing states, which is not great for the former president and probably insurmountable because people aren t going to change their view of him. sam stein, that may be true.