phillips. labour had ordered its mps to back the party s own amendments which called for a longer humanitarian pause. labour wanted those mps to abstain on the snp proposal. so the language is really important. the labour proposal had simply been a humanitarian pause, the idea a pause in fighting, a longer pause to allow aid in and people out, should they need medical help. the snp proposal was calling for an outright ceasefire. we know internationally there is growing condemnation, growing criticism of the rising death toll in israel s wore in the middle east. so that is at the centre of these discussions and the votes. we know tonight the un security council in new york is voting on a similar proposal around the wording of whether it is a ceasefire or a humanitarian pause. the un proposal is for a humanitarian pause. let s get the latest on what is happening at westminster, iain watson is an central lobby. you are running through some of the logistics and details of how thi
hi, everyone. here we go. it is 4:00 in new york. oh, to be a fly on the wall behind these closed doors. in the courthouse that has seen no shortage of famous influential or wealthy criminal defendants. 12 new yorkers and seven men and five women are right now debating the fate of a former president of the united states and they have questions. the jury in the historic trump criminal election interference hush money trial is at this moment deliberating on the 34 felony counts trump is charged with by the manhattan district attorney. just in, in the last few minutes, a second note has been sent from the jury, they re asking to re-hear judge merchan s instructions to them and earlier they are requested testimony from david pecker and michael cohen. our journalists are standing watch and they are updating us and we ll update you as soon as we know anything. as of 4:00 p.m., the juries that deliberated for four hours after yesterday s marathon day of closing arguments, more than
the production company podot. also with us is lewis goodall from the news agents podcast and tony pastor, the man behind goalhanger, which is the podcast production company he set up with gary lineker and makes all sorts of hit podcasts, including the rest is history, the rest is politics. there s something very intimate about listening to a podcast i mean, in many ways, a bit like radio where people have their headphones on, they re cooking, they re commuting, they re walking the dog and they get very, very close to the people in theirears. they develop a relationship with the people they re listening to on a regular basis. and we find that when we do live events, a lot of the audience comes up to our hosts and treats them like friends, like they already know them and we have to sort of remind ourtalent, our hosts, that, you know, to expect this and it s just one of those quirks that, in part, i think it s the nature of the way you listen to the shows. here s a quote to
have their headphones on, they re cooking, they re commuting, they re walking the dog and they get very, very close to the people in their ears. they develop a relationship with the people they re listening to on a regular basis. and we find that when we do live events, a lot of the audience comes up to our hosts and treats them like friends, like they already know them and we have to sort of remind ourtalent, our hosts, that, you know, to expect this. and it sjust one of those quirks that, in part, i think it s the nature of the way you listen to the shows. here s a quote to start us off. it s from an annual report on digital news from the reuters institute for the study ofjournalism. it came out on monday and describes news podcasting as, a bright spot for publishers which attracts younger, well educated listeners . given that there aren t so many bright spots for many news organisations at the moment, that is something to hold on to, and i wanted to open up to everyone f
a lot of the audience comes up to our hosts and treats them like friends, like they already know them. and we have to sort of remind our talent, our hosts, that, you know, to expect this. and it sjust one of those quirks that, in part, i think it s the nature of the way you listen to the shows. here s a quote to start us off. it s from an annual report on digital news from the reuters institute for the study ofjournalism. it came out on monday and describes news podcasting as, a bright spot for publishers, which attracts younger, well educated listeners. given that there aren t so many bright spots for many news organisations at the moment, that is something to hold on to and i wanted to open up to everyone first. lewis, you re here. you ve covered many an election over your very young life. you make me sound so old. yeah, not that old. but you ve managed to get in on a few elections. but could you have ever seen that podcasting would be so central to this one? well, i def