On trump. Im howard kurtz and this is mediabuzz. The debate will be hosted by bret baier and Martha Maccallum. I spoke to the anchor of the story from new york. Martha maccallum, welcome. Hi, howie, good to be with you. Howie i havent seen a build up like this for a first debate at the beginning of a campaign since that 2015 Fox Debate With Political Newcomer donald trump. I turned to the other channels i see fox debate. What are people saying . Why do you think that is . I think theres a lot of enthusiasm. I think people are much more politically engaged and probably since that 2015 debate and i think that people see this as , you know, entertainment that is very eye opening in terms of whats going on in the political world, so i think its a huge opportunity for these candidates on this stage and we see it acrosstheboard that people are just more interested in politics they are more interested in whats going on, so i think its great. Howie people didnt talk about politics or talk abou
be a massive story, all of the attention be about him and he be the biggest guy standing in the middle of the stage the way it was all through 2016, and then he doesn t show up for the debate and everyone else is diminished and the guy he hates and wants to stomp on desantis will be the focus of everyone s attacks as are scorpions in the bottle so eventually this luck or whatever it is will run out but it hasn t yet. howie: regardless of who rich and other people think should have a moment and i only have a moment here, doesn t this nice segway, howie, wow you re a real pro. howie: [laughter] doesn t a stage where vivek ramaswamy can talk, nikki haley can talk, tim scott can talk, chris cristi can talk, represent a real opportunity for them to breakthrough a little bit, to normal americans. absolutely. absolutely. if donald trump were there, he would take up all of the oxygen like he always does and the