now, what s the conversation like with regards to the porn industry in this country? i don t know. i think that there s a lot of money that used to be in the porn industry that just isn t there anymore. and i think one of the ways that it s changed is that it s allowed performers that have built name recognition to offer very personalized videos to fans via the internet. now performers with name recognition can create do-it-yourself videos, so to speak. and that enables them to capitalize on a declining business. aurora snow, derek hay and richard abowitz, fascinating conversation. thank you all so much for being a part of it. thanks. time to flash back to this day in 1993 when country singer billy ray cyrus married tish finley. cyrus record company recordedly advised against the secret wedding. the couple filed for divorce